当知道印度空军要购买200架战斗机后,印度论坛干货热评翻译

KOLKATA: The government is in the process of acquiring around 200 aircraft to cope with the depleting aerial inventories of the Indian Air Force, defence secretary Ajay Kumar said here on Sunday.
加尔各答:印度国防部长库马尔周日表示,政府正在采购大约200架飞机,以替换印度空军日益老旧的飞机。


The contract for Hindustan AeronauticsLimited-manufactured 83 LCA Tejas Mark 1 A advanced fighter jets are in the final stages, he said.
83架印度斯坦航空公司制造的LCA光辉Mark 1 A的合同已经已经处于最后阶段,库马尔说。
Apart from these, Expression of Interest (EOI) has been floated for another 110 aircraft, based on which Request for Proposal (RFP) will be floated, Ajay Kumar said.
除此之外,还提出了110架飞机的意向书,基于意向书的招标书也将发布。
"Roughly (for) 200 aircrafts, the acquisition is in process," he said.
他说:“大约有200架飞机,采购正在进行中。”

当知道印度空军要购买200架战斗机后,印度论坛干货热评翻译


The last fleet of seven swing-wing MiG-27 fighters, which played an important role during the 1999 Kargil war, was decommissioned on December 27, 2019.
最后7架的可变后掠翼米格-27战斗机机队在1999年卡吉尔战争中发挥了重要作用,已经在2019年12月27日退役。

当知道印度空军要购买200架战斗机后,印度论坛干货热评翻译


Path-Finder
ELITE MEMBER
The good thing is Pakistan''s air force''s needs are now well supplemented thanks to brilliant thinking with timely decisions and proceedings so need to concentrate on next gen now. We have good partners with whom we can work which is extremely important. Not looking to reinvent the wheel is one reason we have not sunk into some ego boosting glory.
还好巴基斯坦空军的需求得到了不错的补充,因为我们有出色的思维和及时的决策和程序,所以现在可以专注于下一代飞机了。我们有很好的合作伙伴,这非常重要。无需重新发明轮子,是我们没有陷入到虚无的荣耀之中的一个原因。
UKBengali
ELITE MEMBER
Yep PAF is in a good position with JF-17 Block 3 and FC-31(if required) rolling out this decade.
是的,随着枭龙Block 3和FC-31(如果有需要)在10年内推出,巴空军处于有利位置。
UKBengali
ELITE MEMBER
JF-17 Block 3 gives Pakistan a Gripen E capable jet at less than half the cost and propels Pakistani aerospace tech and some of the money stays in Pakistan as well.
The people who initiated this programme should be national heroes.
枭龙Block 3具有鹰狮E的能力,而价格却不到一半,还推动了巴基斯坦航空技术的发展,让巴基斯坦省了很多钱。
发起这项计划的人是民族英雄。
Path-Finder
ELITE MEMBER
unfortunately the man behind the programs was posed to be ACM but the yanks were so enraged that Pakistan was still pursuing this project that he was not made ACM and retired by the american installed gov. anyway that''s history and he is a national hero.
很不幸,项目背后的人本来被任命为空军上将的,但美国佬对于巴基斯坦仍然在进行这个项目很愤怒,他就没有被任命为空军上将,还被听命于美国的政府强迫退役了。无论如何,这些都是历史了,他是一个民族英雄。[/copy]

当知道印度空军要购买200架战斗机后,印度论坛干货热评翻译


Dash 印度
SENIOR MEMBER
Since you have compared Gripen E (not even C/D but E) with JF 17 can you post your comparative analysis of both aircrafts and enlighten us on the superiority of JF 17?
既然你用枭龙来和鹰狮E(还不是C/D,而是E型),那你能发一下你的对比分析,告诉我们枭龙有什么优势?
seven0seven
don''t compare 2 jets in same category Gripen E Now Stand in Medium weight category but Block-3 still in light weight class
No one knows real/Classified capabilities of respected AESAs By manufacturer companies
Top speed doesn''t matters in air to air war, its about accelerations and T/W ratio and Gripen E has supercruise only in clean configurations or with minimal air to air payloads, and supercruise is useless
and tell me F-35 also has a top speed of Mach 1.6 with no supercruise
不要比较两种不同类别的飞机,鹰狮E现在是中型机了,而枭龙Block-3还是轻型机。


没人知道有源相控阵雷达的真实性能。
在空对空战斗中,最高速度没这么重要,重要的是加速能力和推重比,鹰狮E只有在空载或最小挂载下才能超巡航,没什么用。
F-35最高速度也有1.6马赫,没有超巡航能力。
Tumba 印度
BANNED
110 F-18
83 Tejas MK1A
36+36 Rafale
110架F-18,83架光辉MK1A,36+36架阵风
Deino
INT''L MOD
And once again another mix of more types - why not including some MiG-29M2/-35 ?? - to continue the maintenance nightmare the IAf already has with its mixed fleet of MiG-21, MiG-27 (ok, no longer), MiG-29, Mirage 2000, Jaguar, Su-30??
I really don''t understand this Air Force.
还是杂七杂八的,为什么不引进一些米格-29M2或米格-35?印度空军的维护已经是噩梦了,米格-21、米格-27(好吧,没了)、米格-29、幻影2000、美洲虎、苏-30,还要继续?
我真的看不懂印度空军。
Kaniska 印度
ELITE MEMBER
Do not worry mate...our defence procurement mechanism is so slow that you will hear the same proposal with new flavor after 20 year..
别担心,兄弟,我们的国防采购机制很慢的,20年后,你还是会听到同样的提案的。
BringHarmony
BANNED
There is more to this acquisition than simply planes. Its a carrot. It helps India to push its diplomatic goals too. France, USA, UK and Russia all want a piece of that defense deal, so they support India diplomatically. It has worked quite well in past too.
这里面不单单是买飞机,还是胡萝卜,有助于印度推进外交目标。法国、美国、英国和俄罗斯都希望从国防协议中分一杯羹,所以他们在外交上支持印度。在过去效果非常好。

Tumba 印度
BANNED
This is coming from Defence Secretary...
As Rafale procurement is too expensive to fill the gap in IAF.
Its bare minimum which Indian Govt has to do to maintain least recommended Squadron strength which is due to fall to below 31 once Mig-21 will be retired in coming 5 years.
Minimum recommend strength is 39 Squadrons and for facing 2 front war minimum defensive strength is 52 squadrons.
110 less expensive fighters are surely coming
Tejas MK1A is also a surety
36 Rafales are done deal... another batch of 36 is not sured as of now.
57 Indian Navy MRCA are also required which will likely be reduced to 35-45 in numbers.
这些是国防部长说的。
由于阵风的采购成本太高,无法填补印度空军的缺口。
印度政府建议维持最低限度的中队力量,一旦米格-21在未来5年内退役,战斗机中队将不足31支。
建议的最低限度的力量是39支中队,而要面对两线战争最低限度的防御力量是52支中队。
肯定会买110架不那么贵的战斗机。
光辉MK1A也确定了。
36架阵风也成交了。另外一批36架阵风现在还不确定。
印度海军还需要57架多用途战斗机,不过数量可能会减少到35-45架。
khanmubashir
FULL MEMBER
what India should have done is get f16 for iaf
gets a very good and the most cost effective option with USA good books for navy f18 best option
36 rafales enough
it price tag is close to f15
even though he latter is heavy strike fighter the rafales medium weight
slightly more better then f16 latest versions
the only edge the Euro jets had over Americans 4 g was aesa and other such avionics
but Americans have now upgraded there f-teen series with f35 derivatives so that edge is lost and Americans one r cheaper too
印度应该为空军买F-16。给海军最好、最有性价比的选择是F-18。
36架阵风足够了,阵风的价格接近F-15。

虽然它是重型机,而阵风是中型机,但也比F-16最新版要好一些。
欧洲的四代机相比美国四代机,唯一的优势是有源相控阵雷达和其他类似的航空电子设备。
但现在美国人也用F-35的设备给旧飞机升级了,所以这些优势也没有了,而且美国的飞机还比较便宜。
Tumba 印度
BANNED
50 odd F-18s are more than sufficient for taking care of all naval threats in Arabian sea.
In fact a overkill ...
50多架F-18足以应付阿拉伯海的所有威胁了。
实际上都不用这么多。
khanmubashir
FULL MEMBER
u thought the same about about 300 su 30 Sonny
你们有300架Su-30的时候也是这么想的
JohnWick
SENIOR MEMBER
Different type of missions require different types of aircraft....
F-15 interceptor
F-15E attack bombing mission
F-16 reduce the cost of F-15 programme
F-14 air superiority
F-18 carrier based interceptor
F-22 to kick Chinese and Russian ****
F-31 stealth version of F-16.
不同的任务要用不同的飞机。
F-15用于拦截
F-15E用于攻击轰炸任务
F-16用于降低F-15的成本
F-14用于空中优势
F-18是舰载拦截机
F-22可以踢中国和俄罗斯的屁股

F-31隐形版的F-16


Surya 1 印度
SENIOR MEMBER
India need to work hard for a decade in this area so that we may not have to buy any plane from outside. We can top class planes in a decade as well as we can have all building blocks of these technology.
印度需要在这方面努力十年,这样我们才不用买外国飞机。我们可以在十年内拥有一流的飞机,还有这些技术所需的所有要素


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