當知道印度空軍要購買200架戰鬥機後,印度論壇乾貨熱評翻譯

KOLKATA: The government is in the process of acquiring around 200 aircraft to cope with the depleting aerial inventories of the Indian Air Force, defence secretary Ajay Kumar said here on Sunday.
加爾各答:印度國防部長庫馬爾週日表示,政府正在採購大約200架飛機,以替換印度空軍日益老舊的飛機。


The contract for Hindustan AeronauticsLimited-manufactured 83 LCA Tejas Mark 1 A advanced fighter jets are in the final stages, he said.
83架印度斯坦航空公司製造的LCA光輝Mark 1 A的合同已經已經處於最後階段,庫馬爾說。
Apart from these, Expression of Interest (EOI) has been floated for another 110 aircraft, based on which Request for Proposal (RFP) will be floated, Ajay Kumar said.
除此之外,還提出了110架飛機的意向書,基於意向書的招標書也將發佈。
"Roughly (for) 200 aircrafts, the acquisition is in process," he said.
他說:“大約有200架飛機,採購正在進行中。”

當知道印度空軍要購買200架戰鬥機後,印度論壇乾貨熱評翻譯


The last fleet of seven swing-wing MiG-27 fighters, which played an important role during the 1999 Kargil war, was decommissioned on December 27, 2019.
最後7架的可變後掠翼米格-27戰鬥機機隊在1999年卡吉爾戰爭中發揮了重要作用,已經在2019年12月27日退役。

當知道印度空軍要購買200架戰鬥機後,印度論壇乾貨熱評翻譯


Path-Finder
ELITE MEMBER
The good thing is Pakistan''s air force''s needs are now well supplemented thanks to brilliant thinking with timely decisions and proceedings so need to concentrate on next gen now. We have good partners with whom we can work which is extremely important. Not looking to reinvent the wheel is one reason we have not sunk into some ego boosting glory.
還好巴基斯坦空軍的需求得到了不錯的補充,因為我們有出色的思維和及時的決策和程序,所以現在可以專注於下一代飛機了。我們有很好的合作伙伴,這非常重要。無需重新發明輪子,是我們沒有陷入到虛無的榮耀之中的一個原因。
UKBengali
ELITE MEMBER
Yep PAF is in a good position with JF-17 Block 3 and FC-31(if required) rolling out this decade.
是的,隨著梟龍Block 3和FC-31(如果有需要)在10年內推出,巴空軍處於有利位置。
UKBengali
ELITE MEMBER
JF-17 Block 3 gives Pakistan a Gripen E capable jet at less than half the cost and propels Pakistani aerospace tech and some of the money stays in Pakistan as well.
The people who initiated this programme should be national heroes.
梟龍Block 3具有鷹獅E的能力,而價格卻不到一半,還推動了巴基斯坦航空技術的發展,讓巴基斯坦省了很多錢。
發起這項計劃的人是民族英雄。
Path-Finder
ELITE MEMBER
unfortunately the man behind the programs was posed to be ACM but the yanks were so enraged that Pakistan was still pursuing this project that he was not made ACM and retired by the american installed gov. anyway that''s history and he is a national hero.
很不幸,項目背後的人本來被任命為空軍上將的,但美國佬對於巴基斯坦仍然在進行這個項目很憤怒,他就沒有被任命為空軍上將,還被聽命於美國的政府強迫退役了。無論如何,這些都是歷史了,他是一個民族英雄。[/copy]

當知道印度空軍要購買200架戰鬥機後,印度論壇乾貨熱評翻譯


Dash 印度
SENIOR MEMBER
Since you have compared Gripen E (not even C/D but E) with JF 17 can you post your comparative analysis of both aircrafts and enlighten us on the superiority of JF 17?
既然你用梟龍來和鷹獅E(還不是C/D,而是E型),那你能發一下你的對比分析,告訴我們梟龍有什麼優勢?
seven0seven
don''t compare 2 jets in same category Gripen E Now Stand in Medium weight category but Block-3 still in light weight class
No one knows real/Classified capabilities of respected AESAs By manufacturer companies
Top speed doesn''t matters in air to air war, its about accelerations and T/W ratio and Gripen E has supercruise only in clean configurations or with minimal air to air payloads, and supercruise is useless
and tell me F-35 also has a top speed of Mach 1.6 with no supercruise
不要比較兩種不同類別的飛機,鷹獅E現在是中型機了,而梟龍Block-3還是輕型機。


沒人知道有源相控陣雷達的真實性能。
在空對空戰鬥中,最高速度沒這麼重要,重要的是加速能力和推重比,鷹獅E只有在空載或最小掛載下才能超巡航,沒什麼用。
F-35最高速度也有1.6馬赫,沒有超巡航能力。
Tumba 印度
BANNED
110 F-18
83 Tejas MK1A
36+36 Rafale
110架F-18,83架光輝MK1A,36+36架陣風
Deino
INT''L MOD
And once again another mix of more types - why not including some MiG-29M2/-35 ?? - to continue the maintenance nightmare the IAf already has with its mixed fleet of MiG-21, MiG-27 (ok, no longer), MiG-29, Mirage 2000, Jaguar, Su-30??
I really don''t understand this Air Force.
還是雜七雜八的,為什麼不引進一些米格-29M2或米格-35?印度空軍的維護已經是噩夢了,米格-21、米格-27(好吧,沒了)、米格-29、幻影2000、美洲虎、蘇-30,還要繼續?
我真的看不懂印度空軍。
Kaniska 印度
ELITE MEMBER
Do not worry mate...our defence procurement mechanism is so slow that you will hear the same proposal with new flavor after 20 year..
別擔心,兄弟,我們的國防採購機制很慢的,20年後,你還是會聽到同樣的提案的。
BringHarmony
BANNED
There is more to this acquisition than simply planes. Its a carrot. It helps India to push its diplomatic goals too. France, USA, UK and Russia all want a piece of that defense deal, so they support India diplomatically. It has worked quite well in past too.
這裡面不單單是買飛機,還是胡蘿蔔,有助於印度推進外交目標。法國、美國、英國和俄羅斯都希望從國防協議中分一杯羹,所以他們在外交上支持印度。在過去效果非常好。

Tumba 印度
BANNED
This is coming from Defence Secretary...
As Rafale procurement is too expensive to fill the gap in IAF.
Its bare minimum which Indian Govt has to do to maintain least recommended Squadron strength which is due to fall to below 31 once Mig-21 will be retired in coming 5 years.
Minimum recommend strength is 39 Squadrons and for facing 2 front war minimum defensive strength is 52 squadrons.
110 less expensive fighters are surely coming
Tejas MK1A is also a surety
36 Rafales are done deal... another batch of 36 is not sured as of now.
57 Indian Navy MRCA are also required which will likely be reduced to 35-45 in numbers.
這些是國防部長說的。
由於陣風的採購成本太高,無法填補印度空軍的缺口。
印度政府建議維持最低限度的中隊力量,一旦米格-21在未來5年內退役,戰鬥機中隊將不足31支。
建議的最低限度的力量是39支中隊,而要面對兩線戰爭最低限度的防禦力量是52支中隊。
肯定會買110架不那麼貴的戰鬥機。
光輝MK1A也確定了。
36架陣風也成交了。另外一批36架陣風現在還不確定。
印度海軍還需要57架多用途戰鬥機,不過數量可能會減少到35-45架。
khanmubashir
FULL MEMBER
what India should have done is get f16 for iaf
gets a very good and the most cost effective option with USA good books for navy f18 best option
36 rafales enough
it price tag is close to f15
even though he latter is heavy strike fighter the rafales medium weight
slightly more better then f16 latest versions
the only edge the Euro jets had over Americans 4 g was aesa and other such avionics
but Americans have now upgraded there f-teen series with f35 derivatives so that edge is lost and Americans one r cheaper too
印度應該為空軍買F-16。給海軍最好、最有性價比的選擇是F-18。
36架陣風足夠了,陣風的價格接近F-15。

雖然它是重型機,而陣風是中型機,但也比F-16最新版要好一些。
歐洲的四代機相比美國四代機,唯一的優勢是有源相控陣雷達和其他類似的航空電子設備。
但現在美國人也用F-35的設備給舊飛機升級了,所以這些優勢也沒有了,而且美國的飛機還比較便宜。
Tumba 印度
BANNED
50 odd F-18s are more than sufficient for taking care of all naval threats in Arabian sea.
In fact a overkill ...
50多架F-18足以應付阿拉伯海的所有威脅了。
實際上都不用這麼多。
khanmubashir
FULL MEMBER
u thought the same about about 300 su 30 Sonny
你們有300架Su-30的時候也是這麼想的
JohnWick
SENIOR MEMBER
Different type of missions require different types of aircraft....
F-15 interceptor
F-15E attack bombing mission
F-16 reduce the cost of F-15 programme
F-14 air superiority
F-18 carrier based interceptor
F-22 to kick Chinese and Russian ****
F-31 stealth version of F-16.
不同的任務要用不同的飛機。
F-15用於攔截
F-15E用於攻擊轟炸任務
F-16用於降低F-15的成本
F-14用於空中優勢
F-18是艦載攔截機
F-22可以踢中國和俄羅斯的屁股

F-31隱形版的F-16


Surya 1 印度
SENIOR MEMBER
India need to work hard for a decade in this area so that we may not have to buy any plane from outside. We can top class planes in a decade as well as we can have all building blocks of these technology.
印度需要在這方面努力十年,這樣我們才不用買外國飛機。我們可以在十年內擁有一流的飛機,還有這些技術所需的所有要素


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