08.27 因驅逐鄧肯被斯特恩要求去看心理醫生,走近克勞福德的易怒問題

[Devine] Joey Crawford: David Stern ordered me to get therapy after ejecting Tim Duncan for laughing

喬伊-克勞福德:在我因為鄧肯大笑而驅逐了他之後,大衛-斯特恩讓我去看看心理醫生。

因驅逐鄧肯被斯特恩要求去看心理醫生,走近克勞福德的易怒問題


[–]OllieBollie06 1776 指標 9小時前*

Well yeah, you ejected someone for essentially minding their own fucking business.

那不然呢,人自己在那兒待的好好的,您直接就給人驅逐了。

[–]NuggetsEricStoltz-MaskMorty 504 指標 7小時前

Happily minding their own business at that.

人鄧肯不光是自顧自的,而且還是開開心心的呢

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 227 指標 6小時前

I feel you all and Stern have it all wrong.

Sure it LOOKED like Timmy was just minding his own business and having a cheery ol' time, but to those with keen court vision and knows Duncan could see he was losing it. Joey saw the truth. Rose would have agreed with the call.

我覺得你們大家還有斯特恩都誤會了。

的確,看起來鄧肯只是自己在那兒自娛自樂、享受慶祝時光,但是對於那些有著敏銳球場視野並且瞭解鄧肯的人來說,他們知道鄧肯要瘋。克勞福德透過現象看到了本質,羅斯會贊同這個判罰的。

Tim Duncan was not just happily minding his own business, but he was EXTREMELY happy. Like OVERLY JOYED. OVER THE TOP. Duncan was getting out of control. Expressing his emotions. Talking to people. SMILING!

鄧肯可不單單只是開心地坐在那裡啊,他那是“喜不自勝”,是“欣喜若狂”,是“樂不可支”,鄧肯那已經放飛自我了,宣洩情感、和別人說話,鄧肯那可是在笑誒!!!

It was beyond the point where Duncan was in control of himself or his emotions.

Who know's what Tim might have done next? Tip Popovich over? Or worse yet, some fan?

Joey made the right call.

這已經超出了鄧肯的自我控制或情緒管理能力的極限了。

誰能猜到鄧肯下一步會做什麼啊?掀翻波波?或者更糟,對球迷下手?

克勞福德這吹的可沒毛病啊。


[–][CHI] Derrick Rosesnakeincup 120 指標 8小時前

Well you were being a colossal power tripping dick, which was pretty much par the course for ol Joey, so yeah makes sense.

這個嘛,您那時候整個就一拿雞毛當令箭的大事兒逼,不過這也就是老克勞福德的平均水準嘛,沒毛病啊。

[–]coocookazoo 95 指標 9小時前

That's right, Timmy deserves justice

沒錯,鄧肯應該得到正義的伸張!

[–]Trail BlazersDgeneratte 35 指標 8小時前

He also got fined 100,000. How much do refs make?

克勞福德後來還被罰了10萬刀,話說裁判一共能掙多少啊?

[–]Mavericks TankwagonCreamOfSumYungFella 60 指標 7小時前

Anywhere from $150-550k, depending on how long they've been doing it. $100k seems pretty stiff.

大概在15萬到55萬刀之間吧,具體數字取決於裁判資歷。10萬刀罰款還是挺狠的。

[–]RaptorsTheSimonToUrGarfunkl 40 指標 5小時前

Well when you fuck up the player-referee trust in a multi billion dollar league almost singlehandedly and we are still talking about it 10 years later, it's rather small.

他近乎以一己之力破壞了這個數十億美元的聯盟中球員和裁判之間相互信任,而且嚴重到事發10年之後人們還在談論。罰這個數其實還算少了呢。


[–]RaptorsShapeOfAUnicorn 160 指標 9小時前

wtf I love David Stern now

猛龍球迷:哎喲我艹,我咋對斯特恩突然轉粉了。

[–][SAS] Dejounte MurrayMisterShazam 341 指標 9小時前

Wow, David Stern, my new favorite NBA commissioner All-Time.

馬刺球迷:哇大衛-斯特恩幹得不錯哦,他現在是我最喜歡的NBA歷史最佳總裁了。

[–]Lakersquandrawn 173 指標 8小時前

Nope, never.

湖人球迷:垃倒吧。

[–]KingsTheFoxKing5 75 指標 4小時前

I will always maintain that Stern was the commissioner the nba needed at the time. If Silver was the top boss at the time we wouldn't have the thriving nba we have today. I like Silver, but he's a pushover. Which is fine because he makes a lot of popular decisions and statements.

我一直覺得斯特恩就是那時NBA最需要的總裁人選。如果換成肖華,也許就沒有如今這樣鼎盛的NBA了。我挺喜歡肖華的,不過他實在是沒主見,太容易被擺弄了。不過也沒關係,因為他做的決定和說到話有很多都是受大眾歡迎的。

But Stern was much more... stern in his approach to the league and the sports world in general. I think he was a better commissioner because he had to make significantly more difficult choices. Plus he never would have let that cap-spike shit fly if he was still around.

不過斯特恩就更……強硬堅定一些。在處理聯盟事務以及整個體育圈的方面,他一直堅持一套自己的做法。我覺得斯特恩作為總裁更出色,因為他那時候必須做出更加艱難的抉擇。而且如果斯特恩2016年那會兒還在聯盟,他絕不會允許工資帽飆升。


[–][LAL] Jose Calderonvictor396 1397 指標 1 天前

We talk about mental health and players but the anger management Crawford did back in the day was, apparently, fundamental in his career.

Props to Stern for promoting it before it was better known or even laughed at (like Metta).

湖人球迷:咱們都樂意討論球員們的心理健康問題,但克勞福德那時候做的憤怒管理治療實際上對他的職業生涯是有著至關重要作用的。

斯特恩在這個問題廣為人知甚至還會被嘲笑前(正如慈世平)就推行對其的關注,要給他點贊!

[–]Trail Blazers_Quetzalcoatlus_ 194 指標 7小時前

Yeah, everyone is this thread is calling Crawford a dick or just laughing at the title, but it's a good read. I don't think people understand how challenging it is to be a ref in basketball. It's probably the hardest sport to officiate, and you constantly have to deal with players, fans, and coaches yelling at you and calling you names. And there is no real opportunity to defend yourself. You just have to suck it up and stay calm, even when no one else is.

這個帖子裡的人要麼嘲笑老克勞福德,要麼取笑標題,其實這文章挺值得讀讀的。我覺得大家根本不知道當一名籃球裁判有多不容易。這可能是執法起來最困難的運動啊,而且你還需要不停去處理球員、球迷以及教練的問題,他們會不斷衝你叫嚷。你也沒機會去為自己辯護,你能做的就是咬碎牙齒往肚子裡咽,即便其他人不冷靜,你也必須保持冷靜。

He would tell me, ‘Joe, if you feel [the anger] coming on, just do something with your hands. Put them by your side or behind your back.’ He told me, ‘Keep reminding yourself, calm down, calm down. If somebody was getting on me about a bad call, he’d remind me, ‘Slow your breathing down. Remind yourself you’re a good ref.’ Those things helped me get through my last 10 years in the NBA.

他告訴我“喬伊,如果你感覺(憤怒)就要爆發了,給自己的手找點事情做。把手放在兩側或者身後,”他告訴我,“記住,冷靜再冷靜,如果有人因為我吹罰得不好來對我喋喋不休,那這他會提醒我‘放慢呼吸,記住了,你是個優秀的裁判’。這些話語幫我度過了我在NBA的最後10年。

Credit to Crawford for following through and addressing his anger issues.

向克勞福德致敬,他成功堅持了下來,而且還將自己的易怒問題拿到檯面上來討論。

[–]Raptorsrealsomalipirate 54 指標 6小時前

The worst thing about the sub and sports fandom in general is the abuse towards the refs. It's disgusting.

話題區和體育粉絲群體乾的最醜陋的事情就是肆意欺負裁判,這真的很噁心。

[–][MIA] Mike BibbyBZGames 240 指標 7小時前

People clowned on Metta for thanking his therapist after winning the championship

慈世平拿下冠軍之後感謝了自己的心理醫生,結果也被大家嘲笑了。

[–]Ihatemelo 194 指標 7小時前

Metta was lauded and praised for it. Are we talking about the adult opinion at the time or the teenage social media opinion? I remember distinctly everyone saying how courageous he was to talk about it.

慈世平為此獲得了不少誇獎與讚美,咱們說的是成年人的觀點吧?不是那幫小年輕鍵盤俠們的觀點吧?我還清楚地記得當時大家都說,慈世平能把這些說出來,真的很勇敢。

[–]Notoriouslydishonest 139 指標 6小時前

It's the internet.

If 100 people support something and 5 disagree, everyone gets worked up about the "trolls".

這就是網絡嘛。

如果一樣東西有100個人支持,但同時有5個人反對,那大家的注意力就到那五個“譁眾取寵”的人身上了。


[–]Slo*河蟹* 25 指標 8小時前

Whats up with all the articles about this all of a sudden?

咋突然之間都是關於這事兒的文章?

[–][LAC] Blake GriffinSTICK_OF_DOOM 40 指標 8小時前

Joey was featured in an ESPN article recently so a lot of new info is coming out.

因為喬伊最近接受ESPN採訪,然後後者出了一篇文章,所以炸出了很多新的信息。

[–]macbeth_htebcam 12 指標 4小時前

It's kind of insane that in Joey Crawford and in the writer's mind that this was the one and only mark on an otherwise sterling career. He was awful. He couldn't get over himself, the Duncan incident was just the last straw. I love how he kind of blames Duncan for laughing too.

難以置信,在克勞福德和該文章作者的腦海裡,他們覺得克勞福德如此輝煌的生涯裡就只有這麼一個汙點?克勞福德真的是太糟了,他太把自己當回事兒了,鄧肯事件只是壓垮駱駝的最後一根稻草。而且他字裡行間的那意思是怪鄧肯笑,呵呵啊。


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