Back in 2012, Thibodeau played Jimmy Butler all 48 minutes in a preseason game against the Timberwolves
早在2012年，锡伯杜曾在对阵森林狼的一场【季前赛】里决定让巴特勒打满48分钟。
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Just something I stumbled upon while browsing the Bulls sub (credit to /u/psxv and /u/bullsfan03 for bringing it up and linking the story). That's just insane, no other coach would've done this.
我之前逛公牛专区的时候凑巧看到了这个，也是惊了个呆（这里要给两位公牛球迷老哥点个赞，他们提起了这事，还附上了链接）。听起来有点儿不可思议啊，除了锡伯杜没哪个教练干得出这种事 。
[–][BOS] Jayson TatumIntergalacticWZRD 2529 指標 10小時前
That’s absolutely ridiculous.
You know it’s kinda funny. My highschool coach was a real hard ass Former marine, he’s been coaching for 40+ years. Coached against Marcus Camby at the highschool level. He’s very similar to Thibs in style and demeanor and of course half way through my senior season we find out that him and Thibs are on first name basis with each other. They even had dinner when Thibs was in town playing the Celtics.
这也太扯淡了。
说起这个我想起来了。我高中的教练是退伍的海军陆战队员，非常严苛，已经执教四十多年了。他曾经带队对阵过高中时期的马库斯-坎比。他的执教风格和处事方式都和锡伯杜很相似，结果，巧了不是，在我高三那个赛季，我们发现他和锡伯杜私交甚笃。当锡伯杜带队做客波士顿迎战凯尔特人的时候，他俩甚至还一块儿共进晚餐呢。
[–]F7U12_ANALYSIS 817 指標 9小時前
Do you think he would’ve played jimmy butler 48 minutes in a preseason game?
那你觉得你高中教练能干出来在季前赛派巴特勒打满全场的事儿吗？
[–]Thundercarmelol_assthony 617 指標 8小時前
I feel like even a real-hard-ass-former-marine wouldn’t play Butler for 48 mins in a preseason game. That is absurd.
我觉得，就算是一名极其严苛的前海军陆战队队员也不会在季前赛操满巴特勒全场啊。太荒谬了。
[–]Salami_On_Rye 125 指標 7小時前
I've been to a couple of preseason games over the years as there's no NBA team in my city. (Well, there was. Two of 'em in fact.) I've never seen a starter actually log minutes in the second half. And both times, at least one star was not even at the game.
As a fan of the sport, it would be cool to see a great player actually playing a full game in preseason. As a fan of the team, it would be stupefying.
这些年来我去看过两场季前赛，毕竟我住的这城市没有NBA队伍（这个吧， 其实以前是有的，应该说是有过两支队来着[译注1]）。我还真从没见过首发球员出现在季前赛下半场的比赛里。而且我看的那两次，最起码有一个球星甚至都没跟队作战。
作为一个体育迷，能看到一名明星球员打满全场还是很爽的。但是如果是作为队迷来说，这也太傻了。
[译注1]层主来自圣地亚哥，曾经有NBA的圣地亚哥火箭队和圣地亚哥快船队，后来两队分别迁往休斯顿和洛杉矶。
[–][SAS] Matt Bonnerbb1432 280 指標 9小時前
I was on the Thibs is a shitty coach because of his rotations train for at least that long.
I welcome the company.
马刺球迷：至少打2012年起，我就觉得锡伯杜是个垃圾教练，就是因为他的轮换时间。
欢迎锡伯杜黑粉上车。
[–][CHI] Dennis Rodmanali_924_ 341 指標 10小時前
Thibs just wanna see Jimmy bench press a train at one point in his life
公牛球迷：锡伯杜可能是希望巴特勒有一天能练到卧推推起一列火车吧。
[–]pubgplayer14 99 指標 6小時前
and that's why a lot of the starting bulls came out super injured or with chronic pains.
Thibs played them like workhorses because he's an idiot and to top it all off, the Bulls medical staff are the most incompetent group of trainers in all of sports. Check Luol Dengs story. That shit fucking SUCKS.
这也解释了为什么当初的公牛首发后来都伤得特别厉害，或者出现了不同级别的慢性疼痛。
锡伯杜就是脑子进水了，把球员当驮马用呢，而更要命的是，公牛的医疗组还是职业体育领域里最烂的那档。大家可以去查查邓英乔和公牛队医的故事。是真的特么操蛋。
[–]username--_-- 49 指標 7小時前*
I feel like there is an argument on both sides for this. In 2012, Jimmy was just coming off a rookie year, as a late first round pick where he got almost no playing time.
其实这事儿也分两头说，2012年的时候，巴特勒刚刚打完自己的新秀赛季，作为一名首轮末位秀，他并没有捞到多少出场时间。
Might as well give the guy as much playing time as possible in the preseason, when nothing matters, than in the regular season when every game matters. Plus Jimmy seems like the guy, who at the prove it stage of his career, would have been absolutely ecstatic at getting that type of opportunity.
所以倒不如让巴特勒尽可能多打打季前赛，毕竟季前赛输赢无所谓啊，常规赛可就不行了，每场都很重要嘛。另外巴特勒那时候还处于急需证明自己的阶段，对于能得到那样的机会，可能他本人高兴还来不及呢。
[–][MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpoparkertokounmpo 160 指標 10小時前
Lol saw that too and I was ready to post it. People still claiming that he doesn’t drive his star players to the ground are crazy.
哈哈哈哈，看到这篇文章了，本来我还打算自己发来着呢。还说锡伯杜没有把自家明星球员往死里操的人都是失心疯了。
[–]RaptorsBowiescorvat2 1327 指標 10小時前
What the fuck. This guy has a fetish for Jimmy, if I was Jimmy I'd get the fuck away too
我了个去，这哥们是有多迷恋巴特勒啊，我要是巴特勒我也得离他远点儿。
[–]NBAdreamofbeans 497 指標 9小時前*
Maybe that’s how he gave Jimmy the confidence to improve. Maybe Luke should play Josh Hart 48min later he might turn into the next Jimmy
可换句话说，没准就是因此才给了巴特勒不断上升的自信，要是沃顿也让哈特打满48分钟，没准哈特就是下个巴特勒了呢。
[–]BullsJR_Swiiish 339 指標 8小時前
Maybe he should play Wiggins for 48 every game for the rest of the year
公牛球迷：要不锡伯杜下赛季每场让威金斯打满全场吧。
[–]BucksOnlyReadsFirstLine 223 指標 8小時前
Just put a traffic cone out there instead
不如在场上摆个交通锥呢。
[–][DET] Bill LaimbeerSearchingForKokomo 128 指標 8小時前
At least put a turnstile so you can make some money back off that contract
好歹摆个旋转安检栅栏吧，这样好歹还能挽回点儿威金斯那份合同的损失。
[–]Splashshots 864 指標 9小時前*
Do be fair in 2012 Jimmy was just in his second season and didn’t play a ton as a rookie. It’s not like Thibs was playing one of his star players 48 minutes, he was playing a young guy to give him more experience.
有一说一，2012年只是巴特勒进入联盟后的第二个赛季而已，作为新秀，他打过的比赛其实还不多。所以也不是说的好像锡伯杜艹了自己的明星球员48分钟，他只是在让一名年轻球员积累经验嘛。
Edit: Guys I realize he still shouldn’t be playing anyone 48 minutes a game let alone in the preseason. I’m just trying to put some context out there.
编辑：大伙儿别引用我了，我知道了，不管怎么说锡伯杜都不该让球员出场48分钟，更别说只是季前赛了。但是我还是得把事情的背景说清楚了。
[–]Thunderjd_beats 249 指標 8小時前
I was about to post this... Jimmy didn’t take off until really the next year after this... 48 minutes is probably too much, but giving big playing time to a guy that still needs lots of experiences to develop into a great player isn’t that weird.
我正要说这个来着……巴特勒是在这年之后的下个赛季才打出来的……48分钟确实太长了点儿，但是让一名需要大量积累比赛经验的球员多打打也没什么吧。
[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 81 指標 8小時前
48 minutes is 48 minutes though dawg...in a preseason game that is insane.
但是48分钟就是48分钟啊兄弟……这还是季前赛啊，疯了吧。
[–][MIL] Michael Reddphilosophickle 210 指標 7小時前
Playing 48 minutes drastically increases your chances of injury. It's just unprofessional and dangerous to play someone-- anyone-- that long.
打满全场会让受伤的可能性大幅提升。让任何人（不管他是谁）打满四十八分钟不仅不职业，而且非常危险啊。
[–]RaptorsAstro_Sloth 72 指標 7小時前
Except LeBron James
勒布朗是个例外。
[–]Jazzsaltnvinegar26 76 指標 7小時前
Lebron isn’t mortal though.
可勒布朗不是凡人啊。
[–]JohnParish 123 指標 9小時前
I would think even if that was the regular season, it would be absurd. If you are Lebron in the playoffs, sure, play the whole game, otherwise, nobody should be playing the whole game in this day and age unless everything is on the line.
其实，就算不是季前赛而是常规赛，那让他打满四十八分钟也是很荒谬的事啊。要是说这是季后赛，这人是詹姆斯，那没啥可说的，打满全场呗。除此以外，除非十万火急，这年头没有任何人需要去打满全场。
"Thibodeau also noted that he could get away with playing Butler big minutes because Butler has worked hard on his conditioning this offseason." that's such a load of shit man. Nothing was on the line.
主楼文章还提到：“锡伯杜表示，他可以让巴特勒出场大量时间而没有任何后果是因为巴特勒休赛期苦练了身体。”这真的是满嘴跑火车啊，季前赛而已，根本没什么要紧的事啊。
[–]76ersManSoldWorld 61 指標 9小時前
Thibodeau is just a pure competitor, but in the worst possible way. He has that vision of basketball perfection, but he goes about it like a dumbass: playing your players into the ground
锡伯杜是个纯粹的竞争者，但是这种竞争精神着实是最糟糕的那种。他在篮球上是个完美主义者，但是他用最愚蠢的方式去追求完美：疯狂狠艹自家球员。
[–][DAL] Dennis Rodmanwonderboy0 498 指標 10小時前
This is bordering on unhealthy obsession and Jimmy needs to get the fuck outta there
锡伯杜这种迷恋已经接近病态了。巴特勒还是抓紧特么跑路吧。
[–]Pistonsdrcash360-2ndaccount 273 指標 10小時前
Pour one out for D Rose and Loul Deng
为罗斯和邓默哀一分钟。
[–]Rolodox 134 指標 9小時前
This guy Thibs killed DRose 3 years into his career smh
这个货锡伯杜在罗斯进入职业生涯的第三个年头就把他毁了，哎。
[–]Pistonsdrcash360-2ndaccount 119 指標 9小時前
Up double digits in game 1 with 1 minute left....
季后赛第一场的最后一分钟，公牛领先达两位数……
[–][LAL] Kobe BryantMalificari 93 指標 8小時前
that wil forever triggered me. fuck that game and fuck thibs. i called that injury too when i was watching the game with my brother.
这真是我永远的痛啊，该死的比赛，该死的锡伯杜。我和我兄弟看那场比赛的时候就预感到罗斯会受伤了。
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