Back in 2012, Thibodeau played Jimmy Butler all 48 minutes in a preseason game against the Timberwolves
早在2012年，錫伯杜曾在對陣森林狼的一場【季前賽】裡決定讓巴特勒打滿48分鐘。
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Just something I stumbled upon while browsing the Bulls sub (credit to /u/psxv and /u/bullsfan03 for bringing it up and linking the story). That's just insane, no other coach would've done this.
我之前逛公牛專區的時候湊巧看到了這個，也是驚了個呆（這裡要給兩位公牛球迷老哥點個贊，他們提起了這事，還附上了鏈接）。聽起來有點兒不可思議啊，除了錫伯杜沒哪個教練幹得出這種事 。
[–][BOS] Jayson TatumIntergalacticWZRD 2529 指標 10小時前
That’s absolutely ridiculous.
You know it’s kinda funny. My highschool coach was a real hard ass Former marine, he’s been coaching for 40+ years. Coached against Marcus Camby at the highschool level. He’s very similar to Thibs in style and demeanor and of course half way through my senior season we find out that him and Thibs are on first name basis with each other. They even had dinner when Thibs was in town playing the Celtics.
這也太扯淡了。
說起這個我想起來了。我高中的教練是退伍的海軍陸戰隊員，非常嚴苛，已經執教四十多年了。他曾經帶隊對陣過高中時期的馬庫斯-坎比。他的執教風格和處事方式都和錫伯杜很相似，結果，巧了不是，在我高三那個賽季，我們發現他和錫伯杜私交甚篤。當錫伯杜帶隊做客波士頓迎戰凱爾特人的時候，他倆甚至還一塊兒共進晚餐呢。
[–]F7U12_ANALYSIS 817 指標 9小時前
Do you think he would’ve played jimmy butler 48 minutes in a preseason game?
那你覺得你高中教練能幹出來在季前賽派巴特勒打滿全場的事兒嗎？
[–]Thundercarmelol_assthony 617 指標 8小時前
I feel like even a real-hard-ass-former-marine wouldn’t play Butler for 48 mins in a preseason game. That is absurd.
我覺得，就算是一名極其嚴苛的前海軍陸戰隊隊員也不會在季前賽操滿巴特勒全場啊。太荒謬了。
[–]Salami_On_Rye 125 指標 7小時前
I've been to a couple of preseason games over the years as there's no NBA team in my city. (Well, there was. Two of 'em in fact.) I've never seen a starter actually log minutes in the second half. And both times, at least one star was not even at the game.
As a fan of the sport, it would be cool to see a great player actually playing a full game in preseason. As a fan of the team, it would be stupefying.
這些年來我去看過兩場季前賽，畢竟我住的這城市沒有NBA隊伍（這個吧， 其實以前是有的，應該說是有過兩支隊來著[譯註1]）。我還真從沒見過首發球員出現在季前賽下半場的比賽裡。而且我看的那兩次，最起碼有一個球星甚至都沒跟隊作戰。
作為一個體育迷，能看到一名明星球員打滿全場還是很爽的。但是如果是作為隊迷來說，這也太傻了。
[譯註1]層主來自聖地亞哥，曾經有NBA的聖地亞哥火箭隊和聖地亞哥快船隊，後來兩隊分別遷往休斯頓和洛杉磯。
[–][SAS] Matt Bonnerbb1432 280 指標 9小時前
I was on the Thibs is a shitty coach because of his rotations train for at least that long.
I welcome the company.
馬刺球迷：至少打2012年起，我就覺得錫伯杜是個垃圾教練，就是因為他的輪換時間。
歡迎錫伯杜黑粉上車。
[–][CHI] Dennis Rodmanali_924_ 341 指標 10小時前
Thibs just wanna see Jimmy bench press a train at one point in his life
公牛球迷：錫伯杜可能是希望巴特勒有一天能練到臥推推起一列火車吧。
[–]pubgplayer14 99 指標 6小時前
and that's why a lot of the starting bulls came out super injured or with chronic pains.
Thibs played them like workhorses because he's an idiot and to top it all off, the Bulls medical staff are the most incompetent group of trainers in all of sports. Check Luol Dengs story. That shit fucking SUCKS.
這也解釋了為什麼當初的公牛首發後來都傷得特別厲害，或者出現了不同級別的慢性疼痛。
錫伯杜就是腦子進水了，把球員當馱馬用呢，而更要命的是，公牛的醫療組還是職業體育領域裡最爛的那檔。大家可以去查查鄧英喬和公牛隊醫的故事。是真的特麼操蛋。
[–]username--_-- 49 指標 7小時前*
I feel like there is an argument on both sides for this. In 2012, Jimmy was just coming off a rookie year, as a late first round pick where he got almost no playing time.
其實這事兒也分兩頭說，2012年的時候，巴特勒剛剛打完自己的新秀賽季，作為一名首輪末位秀，他並沒有撈到多少出場時間。
Might as well give the guy as much playing time as possible in the preseason, when nothing matters, than in the regular season when every game matters. Plus Jimmy seems like the guy, who at the prove it stage of his career, would have been absolutely ecstatic at getting that type of opportunity.
所以倒不如讓巴特勒儘可能多打打季前賽，畢竟季前賽輸贏無所謂啊，常規賽可就不行了，每場都很重要嘛。另外巴特勒那時候還處於急需證明自己的階段，對於能得到那樣的機會，可能他本人高興還來不及呢。
[–][MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpoparkertokounmpo 160 指標 10小時前
Lol saw that too and I was ready to post it. People still claiming that he doesn’t drive his star players to the ground are crazy.
哈哈哈哈，看到這篇文章了，本來我還打算自己發來著呢。還說錫伯杜沒有把自家明星球員往死裡操的人都是失心瘋了。
[–]RaptorsBowiescorvat2 1327 指標 10小時前
What the fuck. This guy has a fetish for Jimmy, if I was Jimmy I'd get the fuck away too
我了個去，這哥們是有多迷戀巴特勒啊，我要是巴特勒我也得離他遠點兒。
[–]NBAdreamofbeans 497 指標 9小時前*
Maybe that’s how he gave Jimmy the confidence to improve. Maybe Luke should play Josh Hart 48min later he might turn into the next Jimmy
可換句話說，沒準就是因此才給了巴特勒不斷上升的自信，要是沃頓也讓哈特打滿48分鐘，沒準哈特就是下個巴特勒了呢。
[–]BullsJR_Swiiish 339 指標 8小時前
Maybe he should play Wiggins for 48 every game for the rest of the year
公牛球迷：要不錫伯杜下賽季每場讓威金斯打滿全場吧。
[–]BucksOnlyReadsFirstLine 223 指標 8小時前
Just put a traffic cone out there instead
不如在場上擺個交通錐呢。
[–][DET] Bill LaimbeerSearchingForKokomo 128 指標 8小時前
At least put a turnstile so you can make some money back off that contract
好歹擺個旋轉安檢柵欄吧，這樣好歹還能挽回點兒威金斯那份合同的損失。
[–]Splashshots 864 指標 9小時前*
Do be fair in 2012 Jimmy was just in his second season and didn’t play a ton as a rookie. It’s not like Thibs was playing one of his star players 48 minutes, he was playing a young guy to give him more experience.
有一說一，2012年只是巴特勒進入聯盟後的第二個賽季而已，作為新秀，他打過的比賽其實還不多。所以也不是說的好像錫伯杜艹了自己的明星球員48分鐘，他只是在讓一名年輕球員積累經驗嘛。
Edit: Guys I realize he still shouldn’t be playing anyone 48 minutes a game let alone in the preseason. I’m just trying to put some context out there.
編輯：大夥兒別引用我了，我知道了，不管怎麼說錫伯杜都不該讓球員出場48分鐘，更別說只是季前賽了。但是我還是得把事情的背景說清楚了。
[–]Thunderjd_beats 249 指標 8小時前
I was about to post this... Jimmy didn’t take off until really the next year after this... 48 minutes is probably too much, but giving big playing time to a guy that still needs lots of experiences to develop into a great player isn’t that weird.
我正要說這個來著……巴特勒是在這年之後的下個賽季才打出來的……48分鐘確實太長了點兒，但是讓一名需要大量積累比賽經驗的球員多打打也沒什麼吧。
[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 81 指標 8小時前
48 minutes is 48 minutes though dawg...in a preseason game that is insane.
但是48分鐘就是48分鐘啊兄弟……這還是季前賽啊，瘋了吧。
[–][MIL] Michael Reddphilosophickle 210 指標 7小時前
Playing 48 minutes drastically increases your chances of injury. It's just unprofessional and dangerous to play someone-- anyone-- that long.
打滿全場會讓受傷的可能性大幅提升。讓任何人（不管他是誰）打滿四十八分鐘不僅不職業，而且非常危險啊。
[–]RaptorsAstro_Sloth 72 指標 7小時前
Except LeBron James
勒布朗是個例外。
[–]Jazzsaltnvinegar26 76 指標 7小時前
Lebron isn’t mortal though.
可勒布朗不是凡人啊。
[–]JohnParish 123 指標 9小時前
I would think even if that was the regular season, it would be absurd. If you are Lebron in the playoffs, sure, play the whole game, otherwise, nobody should be playing the whole game in this day and age unless everything is on the line.
其實，就算不是季前賽而是常規賽，那讓他打滿四十八分鐘也是很荒謬的事啊。要是說這是季後賽，這人是詹姆斯，那沒啥可說的，打滿全場唄。除此以外，除非十萬火急，這年頭沒有任何人需要去打滿全場。
"Thibodeau also noted that he could get away with playing Butler big minutes because Butler has worked hard on his conditioning this offseason." that's such a load of shit man. Nothing was on the line.
主樓文章還提到：“錫伯杜表示，他可以讓巴特勒出場大量時間而沒有任何後果是因為巴特勒休賽期苦練了身體。”這真的是滿嘴跑火車啊，季前賽而已，根本沒什麼要緊的事啊。
[–]76ersManSoldWorld 61 指標 9小時前
Thibodeau is just a pure competitor, but in the worst possible way. He has that vision of basketball perfection, but he goes about it like a dumbass: playing your players into the ground
錫伯杜是個純粹的競爭者，但是這種競爭精神著實是最糟糕的那種。他在籃球上是個完美主義者，但是他用最愚蠢的方式去追求完美：瘋狂狠艹自家球員。
[–][DAL] Dennis Rodmanwonderboy0 498 指標 10小時前
This is bordering on unhealthy obsession and Jimmy needs to get the fuck outta there
錫伯杜這種迷戀已經接近病態了。巴特勒還是抓緊特麼跑路吧。
[–]Pistonsdrcash360-2ndaccount 273 指標 10小時前
Pour one out for D Rose and Loul Deng
為羅斯和鄧默哀一分鐘。
[–]Rolodox 134 指標 9小時前
This guy Thibs killed DRose 3 years into his career smh
這個貨錫伯杜在羅斯進入職業生涯的第三個年頭就把他毀了，哎。
[–]Pistonsdrcash360-2ndaccount 119 指標 9小時前
Up double digits in game 1 with 1 minute left....
季後賽第一場的最後一分鐘，公牛領先達兩位數……
[–][LAL] Kobe BryantMalificari 93 指標 8小時前
that wil forever triggered me. fuck that game and fuck thibs. i called that injury too when i was watching the game with my brother.
這真是我永遠的痛啊，該死的比賽，該死的錫伯杜。我和我兄弟看那場比賽的時候就預感到羅斯會受傷了。
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