阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因爲媒體恨他;杜蘭特是勇士第幾好防守球員

[Shiller] Durant: 'I'm never gonna get a look' at winning Defensive Player of the Year

杜蘭特:“在選最佳防守球員的時候,我是永遠不會得到投票者的考慮的。”

Kevin Durant on why he isn't in consideration for DPOY: "It's just pure hate for me obviously and no appreciation for my real skill for the game." — Kevin Durant's DRPM last season was -0.65, 357th out of 521 players in the NBA and 59th out of small forwards

在被問道自己為什麼不在最佳防守球員的候選人行列中時,杜蘭特表示:“顯然就是媒體對我徹徹底底的憎恨,根本不願意欣賞我真正的防守技巧。”——然而,凱文-杜蘭特上賽季的防守正負值為-0.65,在全聯盟521名球員裡排第357,在小前鋒裡排第59。

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因為媒體恨他;杜蘭特是勇士第幾好防守球員

Full Quote:

You know they're not gonna give me anything. Even if it's on the fence, I have to be clear-cut better than everybody for me to even get a look. It's just pure hate for me obviously and no appreciation for my real skill for the game. But I get it. I understand where we coming from. I understand what we have here in this building that scares everybody.

完整原話如下:

“你心裡很清楚他們(媒體)是什麼都不會給我的。就算我有能力得獎也沒用。我必須得比其他人都好很多,媒體才可能稍微考慮我一下,更別說投我了。顯然,這就是因為媒體對我徹徹底底的憎恨,根本不願意欣賞我真正的防守技巧。但我懂,我明白我們都是哪裡來的。我明白,我們在這座建築(勇士主場)裡所展現的東西讓所有人都恐懼。

But for me, I was just proud of the growth that I had in that area. I just wanted to be able to be relied on to guard anybody -- whether it was helping guys at the rim, switching out onto point guards -- so I just tried to do everything. I feel like I grew so much on the defensive side of the ball last year.

“但是對我來說,我只是對自己在防守端已經取得的進步感到驕傲。我只是想能夠肩負好防守任何人的重任——不論是協防護框、還是換防小個控衛——所以,我只是想要努力做好一切。我感覺我去年在防守端成長了非常非常多。”

I feel like my whole game is unlocked now, when I was able to see the things I can do on that side of the basketball ... I'm never gonna get a look when it comes to that, especially playing here for the Warriors.”

“如今的我,彷彿打通了任督二脈,我發現自己在防守端開竅了……但是我永遠也沒機會(在評選最佳防守球員時)得到關注,尤其是如今我在為勇士效力。”


Kevin Durant ranked 357th of all players in DRPM last season and 59th of small forwards. Source. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/9/sort/DRPM

樓主本人評論:凱文-杜蘭特上賽季防守正負值在全聯盟排357名、在小前鋒中排第59名。來源見下圖:

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因為媒體恨他;杜蘭特是勇士第幾好防守球員

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因為媒體恨他;杜蘭特是勇士第幾好防守球員

DRPM is one of the best publicly available stats for tracking defense, although it isn't perfect. Much like other +/- based stats, it can be heavily context dependent. The right system, the ability to implement it, lineups, and surrounding personnel can make all the difference for guys who aren't plug and play rim protectors like Gobert.

防守正負值儘管有其不足之處,但它是公眾有權限看到的最好的追蹤防守表現的數據之一了。和其他基於正負值計算的數據一樣,防守正負值也有很強的實際背景因素。合適的體系、能夠嚴格貫徹體系的能力、陣容、以及身邊的隊友等等。對於那些沒有戈貝爾這樣即插即用的護筐者本領的防守球員來說,這些因素會極大地影響他們的防守數據。

Context however does not help Kevin Durant's case seeing as he plays next to several very capable defenders in Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, and Andre Iguodala on a team that has ranked top 5 in DRtg 4 of the last 5 seasons. KD's DRPM was virtually identical to LeBron's last season at -0.68, who played most of his minutes next to Kevin Love, JR Smith, and Jeff Green.

然而,就算考慮到該數據的實際背景因素,杜蘭特也討不到什麼便宜:他身邊是一眾防守悍將—追夢-格林、克萊-湯普森、安德烈-伊戈達拉。而杜蘭特所效力球隊的防守效率在過去五年的四年裡都排在聯盟前五;而跟杜蘭特上賽季防守正負值-0.68差不多的勒布朗-詹姆斯絕大多數時間是在和凱文-樂福、JR-史密斯、傑夫-格林等人一起打球。


[–]ryano46 267 指標 4小時前

KD is the only player where the full quotes consistently make him look worse

KD是唯一一個自己的完整原話(而不是被媒體斷章取義的標題)總能讓自己更不討喜的球員。

[–]Ubrab 372 指標 14小時前

Every time you feel like Durant has not found a way to damage his image recently he comes up with something new. He could be DPOY but he's not playing as such save for the playoffs. Crying about it won't help.

每次你感覺杜蘭特最近沒說啥不該說的讓自己形象受損,杜蘭特馬上就會站出來證明你錯了。杜蘭特是可以成為最佳防守球員,但他在常規賽沒有那麼用力,從而為了季後賽積蓄能量。抱怨是沒用的。

[–][WAS] Gilbert Arenasthebreakfastbuffet 101 指標 11小時前

It's just pure hate for him, obviously.

顯然,在他看來,不選他當最佳防守球員是“徹頭徹尾的憎恨”。

[–][PHI] Eric Snowgustriandos 445 指標 4小時前

Well yeah you have to be one of the best defenders in the league

76人球迷:哎,阿杜啊,想得到投票者的青睞,首先你也得成為聯盟最佳防守者之一啊。

[–]AaronBrownell 150 指標 4小時前

That doesn't seem fair

不公平啊!怎麼可以這樣呢?

[–]PacersTheColtOfPersonality 101 指標 3小時前

I dunno I’ve seen him get pretty defensive on Twitter

我說不準,我可是見過他在推特上的出色防守表現。

[–]SunsHabloMemes 218 指標 4小時前

He should get credit for defending OKC from getting to the finals

杜蘭特都把雷霆防得進不了總決賽了,他應該得到讚美啊!


[–][GSW] Adonal Foylespasmystic 1216 指標 12小時前

KD is definitely the most defensive player in the league. Aren't these voters considering his burner accounts?

勇士球迷:杜蘭特絕對是全聯盟防禦能力最強的球員。難道這些投票者沒有考慮他小號的出色發揮嘛?

[–]sanpompon 206 指標 11小時前

GSW fan willing to call out KDs insecurity. Good on you.

連勇士球迷都願意點名批評杜蘭特的不安感了,為你點贊。

[–][SAS] Tim DuncanAdReNaLiNe9_ 156 指標 10小時前

Idk man, this could be KDs alt account playing 3D chess.

不好說啊,那個勇士球迷可能就是杜蘭特的小號,在下一盤大棋。


[–][LAL] Brandon Ingramfriskydongo 219 指標 5小時前

Probably cause you don't put in consistent effort for the whole year.

湖人球迷:大概是因為你沒有一整年都保持防守端的勁頭吧!

[–][BKN] Vince CarterLiaM_CS 121 指標 4小時前

And he’s just not good enough

此外,他的防守就是還不夠出色。

[–]RaptorsWasV3 87 指標 4小時前

You're not even the best defender on your team, let alone the league

你甚至不是自己隊裡的最佳防守球員,何談全聯盟?

[–]kemar7856 80 指標 1小時前

Ever since he got to Golden State all he's done is whine and complain

從到勇士之後,杜蘭特只幹了兩件事:抱怨和抱怨。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookRamzaa_ 78 指標 2小時前

KD shouldn't even be in the conversation for potential 10th place DPOY running. Hes a good defender but theres a lot of guys better than him.

雷霆球迷:杜蘭特甚至都不該進入最佳防守球員第十名的討論之中。他確實是個不錯的防守者,但是防守比他強的人太多了。

[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 115 指標 4小時前

He's not even the best defender on his own team lol

杜蘭特甚至不是自己球隊裡的最佳防守球員啊哈哈。


[–]Takyon8A7 110 指標 2小時前

In all seriousness, is Durant even the best defender on his team?

講真,杜蘭特連自己隊內的最佳防守球員都不是吧?

[–]LakersNarstyHobbitses 259 指標 2小時前

It's Draymond by a mile compared to KD

湖人球迷:毋庸置疑是追夢,領先著杜蘭特一大截呢。

[–]SpursMethodMango 81 指標 4小時前

Not even the second best.

馬刺球迷:阿杜連第二都排不上。

[–]CelticsTreyAdell 709 指標 2小時前

DRPM isn't great but KD's defense was very overrated and I laughed every time I heard people talking about DPOY for him last year. Improved as a shot blocker, but he's not even the 2nd best defender on his own team(Dray and Iggy)

防守正負值這個數據不夠好,不過杜蘭特的防守嚴重被高估了。上賽季每次有人說起他配拿最佳防守球員的時候,我都會笑出聲來。在蓋帽上他的確有很大長進,然而他的防守連隊內第二都排不上(追夢和一哥)。

[–]LogenMNE 553 指標 2小時前

Klay is way better also. Klay is elite actually

湯神也比他強多了,事實上,佛祖是精英級別的防守者。

[–]NBAnyuphir 232 指標 1小時前

Klay is also better looking, has a better beard, the list goes on

克萊長得還更帥呢,鬍子也更好看。我還能繼續說下去。

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因為媒體恨他;杜蘭特是勇士第幾好防守球員

[–]Warriorsby_yes_i_mean_no 228 指標 2小時前

KD is not DPOY-worthy, point blank.

But also, theoretically, RPM adjusts for teammates. It can't adjust for the role you play with those teammates, but your "context however..." paragraph makes it sound like you are confused on that point.

勇士球迷:挑明瞭說,杜蘭特配不上最佳防守球員。

此外,理論上講,真實正負值考慮到了隊友的問題;但是它沒有考慮到你在隊中所扮演的角色。但是樓主那一段“然而,實際背景……”好像顯得你弄不太清這碼事呀。


[–][TOR] Jose Calderondeadskin[S] 190 指標 5小時前

He's so out of touch

猛龍球迷:杜蘭特是真的沒點數。

[–]CavaliersProlapse_leakage 40 指標 4小時前

LeBron never got one either and he was a better defender than KD at his physical prime.

騎士球迷:勒布朗也從來沒拿過最佳防守球員,然而身體狀態處於巔峰期的勒布朗防守可比杜蘭特強。

[–]ParkBaller13 62 指標 4小時前

He should work on an all defense second team first. The guy is so far from earning a dpoy its not funny.

He doesnt seem to understand the concept of earning his accolades.

杜蘭特起碼得先擠進最佳防守二陣吧。很嚴肅地說,他現在離最佳防守球員也差太遠了。

他似乎不懂什麼叫做靠本事贏得榮譽。

[–]nancyd180 113 指標 2小時前

KDs defense after Christmas seriously declined, and was disappointing in the WCF on defense. Love KD but it’s not a hate thing.

聖誕節之後阿杜的防守退步太大了;而且西決時他的防守表現也很令人失望。我很喜歡KD,但他沒拿到最佳防守球員絕對不是因為媒體恨他。


[–]ron-darousey 2962 指標 13小時前

KD is a great player, but I am so, so tired of the gigantic chip on his shoulder. He's been complaining about how the media's treated him going back to his days in OKC, which was ridiculous given that Westbrook was consistently the primary target of criticism from talking heads and fans.

杜蘭特是個極其出色的球員,但是我實在是太受不了他給自己加的戲了。他從雷霆時期開始就一直在抱怨媒體待他不公,可這也太荒謬了,因為那時的威少才一直是各路球評和球迷主要的批評對象啊。

[–]Bucksirnjunvirv 752 指標 10小時前

It's always been there, but the Thunder media team did an excellent job hiding the prickly side of KD.

Now he's got even more attention and it doesn't offer a great impression.

杜蘭特一直就這樣,但是雷霆的公關團隊活兒乾的非常漂亮,很好地隱藏住了杜蘭特混蛋的一面。

現在他得到的公眾關注度更大了,所以給人的印象自然就不太好了。

[–]Wojnarowski-4-SSBU 252 指標 9小時前

When Durant was in OKC, we thought Westbrook was the bad guy with the big ego who was too full of himself, but I think we're seeing now that in reality, that person was KD. Westbrook's teammates love him now, and KD continues to complain and take childish jabs at his former teammates and the media. Ive gone from a Westbrook hater and a KD lover to a KD hater and a Westbrook lover recently.

杜蘭特還在雷霆的時候,我們都以為威少才是那個帶惡人,自負心極強又自以為是。但是我覺得我們現在看到的事實是,那個帶惡人其實是杜蘭特。威少的隊友現在都很愛他,但杜蘭特一直就喜歡抱怨,還喜歡又幼稚又陰陽怪氣地攻擊前任隊友和媒體。我以前黑威少粉阿杜,而最近完全反過來了。

[–]1NegativeKarma1 90 指標 9小時前*

The heat he got from leaving OKC may have prompted a lot of this behavior. He’s overcompensating.

他因離開雷霆而得到的口誅筆伐可能大大刺激了他的很多行為。他是在找補。

[–]RaptorsPhilly8519 145 指標 8小時前

He tried to embrace turning heel but it’s backfired badly. The dude made the single weakest move any superstar has made in NBA history. What does he expect.

猛龍球迷:杜蘭特想要擁抱自己的風評大轉彎,但是完全搬起石頭砸自己的腳。杜蘭特做出了歷史上所有超巨中的最軟弱的決定,他指望啥呢。

[–]Wizardsnxqv 140 指標 10小時前

I don't mean this as a dig at him or anyone else, I just want to see him become a better man but, in the light of Kevin Love and the general push for mental health awareness in the NBA, this chip on his shoulder is like the perfect thing for him to talk to a therapist about. Stuff like this doesn't just come from nowhere, it's ingrained, it clearly bothers him day to day judging by his consistent demeanor on social media and interviews, and having someone to talk about it with and work through it with really helps

奇才球迷:我說以下這番話不是想要黑他或者其他人,我只是想要看到杜蘭特變成一個更好的人。但是,考慮到最近凱文-樂福站出來坦誠自己的心理健康問題,而同時公眾對心理健康意識也有很大的倡議,杜蘭特其實很應該去跟心理醫生聊聊他給自己平白無故製造這種“我對抗全世界”的壓力。他現在這種做法不是一蹴而就的,這是植根於他個性內部的。考慮到他在社交媒體上和採訪中的一貫行為,他現在明顯很受困擾啊。如果能找個心理醫生聊聊,一起解決這個問題,那一定會幫到他很大忙的。


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