阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因为媒体恨他;杜兰特是勇士第几好防守球员

[Shiller] Durant: 'I'm never gonna get a look' at winning Defensive Player of the Year

杜兰特:“在选最佳防守球员的时候,我是永远不会得到投票者的考虑的。”

Kevin Durant on why he isn't in consideration for DPOY: "It's just pure hate for me obviously and no appreciation for my real skill for the game." — Kevin Durant's DRPM last season was -0.65, 357th out of 521 players in the NBA and 59th out of small forwards

在被问道自己为什么不在最佳防守球员的候选人行列中时,杜兰特表示:“显然就是媒体对我彻彻底底的憎恨,根本不愿意欣赏我真正的防守技巧。”——然而,凯文-杜兰特上赛季的防守正负值为-0.65,在全联盟521名球员里排第357,在小前锋里排第59。

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因为媒体恨他;杜兰特是勇士第几好防守球员

Full Quote:

You know they're not gonna give me anything. Even if it's on the fence, I have to be clear-cut better than everybody for me to even get a look. It's just pure hate for me obviously and no appreciation for my real skill for the game. But I get it. I understand where we coming from. I understand what we have here in this building that scares everybody.

完整原话如下:

“你心里很清楚他们(媒体)是什么都不会给我的。就算我有能力得奖也没用。我必须得比其他人都好很多,媒体才可能稍微考虑我一下,更别说投我了。显然,这就是因为媒体对我彻彻底底的憎恨,根本不愿意欣赏我真正的防守技巧。但我懂,我明白我们都是哪里来的。我明白,我们在这座建筑(勇士主场)里所展现的东西让所有人都恐惧。

But for me, I was just proud of the growth that I had in that area. I just wanted to be able to be relied on to guard anybody -- whether it was helping guys at the rim, switching out onto point guards -- so I just tried to do everything. I feel like I grew so much on the defensive side of the ball last year.

“但是对我来说,我只是对自己在防守端已经取得的进步感到骄傲。我只是想能够肩负好防守任何人的重任——不论是协防护框、还是换防小个控卫——所以,我只是想要努力做好一切。我感觉我去年在防守端成长了非常非常多。”

I feel like my whole game is unlocked now, when I was able to see the things I can do on that side of the basketball ... I'm never gonna get a look when it comes to that, especially playing here for the Warriors.”

“如今的我,仿佛打通了任督二脉,我发现自己在防守端开窍了……但是我永远也没机会(在评选最佳防守球员时)得到关注,尤其是如今我在为勇士效力。”


Kevin Durant ranked 357th of all players in DRPM last season and 59th of small forwards. Source. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/9/sort/DRPM

楼主本人评论:凯文-杜兰特上赛季防守正负值在全联盟排357名、在小前锋中排第59名。来源见下图:

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因为媒体恨他;杜兰特是勇士第几好防守球员

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因为媒体恨他;杜兰特是勇士第几好防守球员

DRPM is one of the best publicly available stats for tracking defense, although it isn't perfect. Much like other +/- based stats, it can be heavily context dependent. The right system, the ability to implement it, lineups, and surrounding personnel can make all the difference for guys who aren't plug and play rim protectors like Gobert.

防守正负值尽管有其不足之处,但它是公众有权限看到的最好的追踪防守表现的数据之一了。和其他基于正负值计算的数据一样,防守正负值也有很强的实际背景因素。合适的体系、能够严格贯彻体系的能力、阵容、以及身边的队友等等。对于那些没有戈贝尔这样即插即用的护筐者本领的防守球员来说,这些因素会极大地影响他们的防守数据。

Context however does not help Kevin Durant's case seeing as he plays next to several very capable defenders in Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, and Andre Iguodala on a team that has ranked top 5 in DRtg 4 of the last 5 seasons. KD's DRPM was virtually identical to LeBron's last season at -0.68, who played most of his minutes next to Kevin Love, JR Smith, and Jeff Green.

然而,就算考虑到该数据的实际背景因素,杜兰特也讨不到什么便宜:他身边是一众防守悍将—追梦-格林、克莱-汤普森、安德烈-伊戈达拉。而杜兰特所效力球队的防守效率在过去五年的四年里都排在联盟前五;而跟杜兰特上赛季防守正负值-0.68差不多的勒布朗-詹姆斯绝大多数时间是在和凯文-乐福、JR-史密斯、杰夫-格林等人一起打球。


[–]ryano46 267 指標 4小時前

KD is the only player where the full quotes consistently make him look worse

KD是唯一一个自己的完整原话(而不是被媒体断章取义的标题)总能让自己更不讨喜的球员。

[–]Ubrab 372 指標 14小時前

Every time you feel like Durant has not found a way to damage his image recently he comes up with something new. He could be DPOY but he's not playing as such save for the playoffs. Crying about it won't help.

每次你感觉杜兰特最近没说啥不该说的让自己形象受损,杜兰特马上就会站出来证明你错了。杜兰特是可以成为最佳防守球员,但他在常规赛没有那么用力,从而为了季后赛积蓄能量。抱怨是没用的。

[–][WAS] Gilbert Arenasthebreakfastbuffet 101 指標 11小時前

It's just pure hate for him, obviously.

显然,在他看来,不选他当最佳防守球员是“彻头彻尾的憎恨”。

[–][PHI] Eric Snowgustriandos 445 指標 4小時前

Well yeah you have to be one of the best defenders in the league

76人球迷:哎,阿杜啊,想得到投票者的青睐,首先你也得成为联盟最佳防守者之一啊。

[–]AaronBrownell 150 指標 4小時前

That doesn't seem fair

不公平啊!怎么可以这样呢?

[–]PacersTheColtOfPersonality 101 指標 3小時前

I dunno I’ve seen him get pretty defensive on Twitter

我说不准,我可是见过他在推特上的出色防守表现。

[–]SunsHabloMemes 218 指標 4小時前

He should get credit for defending OKC from getting to the finals

杜兰特都把雷霆防得进不了总决赛了,他应该得到赞美啊!


[–][GSW] Adonal Foylespasmystic 1216 指標 12小時前

KD is definitely the most defensive player in the league. Aren't these voters considering his burner accounts?

勇士球迷:杜兰特绝对是全联盟防御能力最强的球员。难道这些投票者没有考虑他小号的出色发挥嘛?

[–]sanpompon 206 指標 11小時前

GSW fan willing to call out KDs insecurity. Good on you.

连勇士球迷都愿意点名批评杜兰特的不安感了,为你点赞。

[–][SAS] Tim DuncanAdReNaLiNe9_ 156 指標 10小時前

Idk man, this could be KDs alt account playing 3D chess.

不好说啊,那个勇士球迷可能就是杜兰特的小号,在下一盘大棋。


[–][LAL] Brandon Ingramfriskydongo 219 指標 5小時前

Probably cause you don't put in consistent effort for the whole year.

湖人球迷:大概是因为你没有一整年都保持防守端的劲头吧!

[–][BKN] Vince CarterLiaM_CS 121 指標 4小時前

And he’s just not good enough

此外,他的防守就是还不够出色。

[–]RaptorsWasV3 87 指標 4小時前

You're not even the best defender on your team, let alone the league

你甚至不是自己队里的最佳防守球员,何谈全联盟?

[–]kemar7856 80 指標 1小時前

Ever since he got to Golden State all he's done is whine and complain

从到勇士之后,杜兰特只干了两件事:抱怨和抱怨。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookRamzaa_ 78 指標 2小時前

KD shouldn't even be in the conversation for potential 10th place DPOY running. Hes a good defender but theres a lot of guys better than him.

雷霆球迷:杜兰特甚至都不该进入最佳防守球员第十名的讨论之中。他确实是个不错的防守者,但是防守比他强的人太多了。

[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 115 指標 4小時前

He's not even the best defender on his own team lol

杜兰特甚至不是自己球队里的最佳防守球员啊哈哈。


[–]Takyon8A7 110 指標 2小時前

In all seriousness, is Durant even the best defender on his team?

讲真,杜兰特连自己队内的最佳防守球员都不是吧?

[–]LakersNarstyHobbitses 259 指標 2小時前

It's Draymond by a mile compared to KD

湖人球迷:毋庸置疑是追梦,领先着杜兰特一大截呢。

[–]SpursMethodMango 81 指標 4小時前

Not even the second best.

马刺球迷:阿杜连第二都排不上。

[–]CelticsTreyAdell 709 指標 2小時前

DRPM isn't great but KD's defense was very overrated and I laughed every time I heard people talking about DPOY for him last year. Improved as a shot blocker, but he's not even the 2nd best defender on his own team(Dray and Iggy)

防守正负值这个数据不够好,不过杜兰特的防守严重被高估了。上赛季每次有人说起他配拿最佳防守球员的时候,我都会笑出声来。在盖帽上他的确有很大长进,然而他的防守连队内第二都排不上(追梦和一哥)。

[–]LogenMNE 553 指標 2小時前

Klay is way better also. Klay is elite actually

汤神也比他强多了,事实上,佛祖是精英级别的防守者。

[–]NBAnyuphir 232 指標 1小時前

Klay is also better looking, has a better beard, the list goes on

克莱长得还更帅呢,胡子也更好看。我还能继续说下去。

阿杜表示拿不到DPOY是因为媒体恨他;杜兰特是勇士第几好防守球员

[–]Warriorsby_yes_i_mean_no 228 指標 2小時前

KD is not DPOY-worthy, point blank.

But also, theoretically, RPM adjusts for teammates. It can't adjust for the role you play with those teammates, but your "context however..." paragraph makes it sound like you are confused on that point.

勇士球迷:挑明了说,杜兰特配不上最佳防守球员。

此外,理论上讲,真实正负值考虑到了队友的问题;但是它没有考虑到你在队中所扮演的角色。但是楼主那一段“然而,实际背景……”好像显得你弄不太清这码事呀。


[–][TOR] Jose Calderondeadskin[S] 190 指標 5小時前

He's so out of touch

猛龙球迷:杜兰特是真的没点数。

[–]CavaliersProlapse_leakage 40 指標 4小時前

LeBron never got one either and he was a better defender than KD at his physical prime.

骑士球迷:勒布朗也从来没拿过最佳防守球员,然而身体状态处于巅峰期的勒布朗防守可比杜兰特强。

[–]ParkBaller13 62 指標 4小時前

He should work on an all defense second team first. The guy is so far from earning a dpoy its not funny.

He doesnt seem to understand the concept of earning his accolades.

杜兰特起码得先挤进最佳防守二阵吧。很严肃地说,他现在离最佳防守球员也差太远了。

他似乎不懂什么叫做靠本事赢得荣誉。

[–]nancyd180 113 指標 2小時前

KDs defense after Christmas seriously declined, and was disappointing in the WCF on defense. Love KD but it’s not a hate thing.

圣诞节之后阿杜的防守退步太大了;而且西决时他的防守表现也很令人失望。我很喜欢KD,但他没拿到最佳防守球员绝对不是因为媒体恨他。


[–]ron-darousey 2962 指標 13小時前

KD is a great player, but I am so, so tired of the gigantic chip on his shoulder. He's been complaining about how the media's treated him going back to his days in OKC, which was ridiculous given that Westbrook was consistently the primary target of criticism from talking heads and fans.

杜兰特是个极其出色的球员,但是我实在是太受不了他给自己加的戏了。他从雷霆时期开始就一直在抱怨媒体待他不公,可这也太荒谬了,因为那时的威少才一直是各路球评和球迷主要的批评对象啊。

[–]Bucksirnjunvirv 752 指標 10小時前

It's always been there, but the Thunder media team did an excellent job hiding the prickly side of KD.

Now he's got even more attention and it doesn't offer a great impression.

杜兰特一直就这样,但是雷霆的公关团队活儿干的非常漂亮,很好地隐藏住了杜兰特混蛋的一面。

现在他得到的公众关注度更大了,所以给人的印象自然就不太好了。

[–]Wojnarowski-4-SSBU 252 指標 9小時前

When Durant was in OKC, we thought Westbrook was the bad guy with the big ego who was too full of himself, but I think we're seeing now that in reality, that person was KD. Westbrook's teammates love him now, and KD continues to complain and take childish jabs at his former teammates and the media. Ive gone from a Westbrook hater and a KD lover to a KD hater and a Westbrook lover recently.

杜兰特还在雷霆的时候,我们都以为威少才是那个带恶人,自负心极强又自以为是。但是我觉得我们现在看到的事实是,那个带恶人其实是杜兰特。威少的队友现在都很爱他,但杜兰特一直就喜欢抱怨,还喜欢又幼稚又阴阳怪气地攻击前任队友和媒体。我以前黑威少粉阿杜,而最近完全反过来了。

[–]1NegativeKarma1 90 指標 9小時前*

The heat he got from leaving OKC may have prompted a lot of this behavior. He’s overcompensating.

他因离开雷霆而得到的口诛笔伐可能大大刺激了他的很多行为。他是在找补。

[–]RaptorsPhilly8519 145 指標 8小時前

He tried to embrace turning heel but it’s backfired badly. The dude made the single weakest move any superstar has made in NBA history. What does he expect.

猛龙球迷:杜兰特想要拥抱自己的风评大转弯,但是完全搬起石头砸自己的脚。杜兰特做出了历史上所有超巨中的最软弱的决定,他指望啥呢。

[–]Wizardsnxqv 140 指標 10小時前

I don't mean this as a dig at him or anyone else, I just want to see him become a better man but, in the light of Kevin Love and the general push for mental health awareness in the NBA, this chip on his shoulder is like the perfect thing for him to talk to a therapist about. Stuff like this doesn't just come from nowhere, it's ingrained, it clearly bothers him day to day judging by his consistent demeanor on social media and interviews, and having someone to talk about it with and work through it with really helps

奇才球迷:我说以下这番话不是想要黑他或者其他人,我只是想要看到杜兰特变成一个更好的人。但是,考虑到最近凯文-乐福站出来坦诚自己的心理健康问题,而同时公众对心理健康意识也有很大的倡议,杜兰特其实很应该去跟心理医生聊聊他给自己平白无故制造这种“我对抗全世界”的压力。他现在这种做法不是一蹴而就的,这是植根于他个性内部的。考虑到他在社交媒体上和采访中的一贯行为,他现在明显很受困扰啊。如果能找个心理医生聊聊,一起解决这个问题,那一定会帮到他很大忙的。


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