[OC] Which team has passed on a chance to draft a top-25 all-time player the most? (Its the Clippers)
【原創內容】哪支球隊在選秀大會上錯過歷史前25球員的次數最多？——答案是快船。
I used ESPN's top-25 all time ranking from a couple years ago. I know its subjective, but I had to use someone's list and this one is pretty recent.
我用了ESPN幾年前排出的的歷史前二十五榜單。我知道這種榜單很主觀，但我總得拿個排名來來用吧。而且這個榜單還是挺新的。
榜單地址：http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankalltime/greatest-players-ever
Note: I do NOT count teams that passed on a top-25 player in order to draft a different top-25 player. (For example, when the Rockets drafted Hakeem over Jordan or when the Royals drafted Oscar over Jerry West).
Note 2: Moses Malone started his pro career in the ABA. When the ABA and NBA merged in 1976 there was a dispersal draft. It was in this dispersal draft that the Bulls, Kings, and Pistons missed their chance at drafting Malone.
注：我沒有算上那些為了選一個歷史前25而錯過了另一個的球隊。（比如，火箭在喬丹之前選了大夢，皇家在LOGO男之前選了大O）。
注2：摩西-馬龍的職業生涯是在ABA啟航的。ABA和NBA在1976年合併時舉行了一次解散選秀。也就是在那屆選秀大會上，公牛、國王和活塞錯過了選中馬龍的機會。
Team
球隊
# Players Passed
錯過的球員數
Top-25 Players Passed
錯過的歷史前25球員
快船
8
科比, 朱利葉斯-歐文,卡爾-馬龍, 諾維茨基, 斯托克頓, 加內特, 庫裡, 皮蓬
國王
7
伯德, 拉塞爾, 摩西-馬龍, 卡爾-馬龍, 諾維茨基, 斯托克頓, 庫裡
開拓者
6
喬丹,伯德, 朱利葉斯-歐文, 巴克利, 斯托克頓, 杜蘭特
勇士
5
伯德, 科比, 卡爾-馬龍. 諾維茨基, 加內特
76人
5
科比, 朱利葉斯-歐文, 諾維茨基, 斯托克頓,加內特
騎士
4
科比, 朱利葉斯-歐文, 卡爾-馬龍, 斯托克頓
獨行俠
4
科比, 卡爾-馬龍, 巴克利, 斯托克頓
太陽
4
朱利葉斯-歐文, 卡爾-馬龍, 斯托克頓, 皮蓬
公牛
3
朱利葉斯-歐文, 摩西-馬龍, 卡爾-馬龍
步行者
3
伯德, 科比, 卡爾-馬龍
灰熊
3
科比, 諾維茨基, 庫裡
尼克斯
3
伯德, 朱利葉斯-歐文, 卡爾-馬龍
雷霆
3
朱利葉斯-歐文,卡爾-馬龍, 庫裡
奇才
3
卡爾-馬龍,斯托克頓, 加內特
老鷹
2
卡爾-馬龍, 斯托克頓
凱爾特人
2
科比, 朱利葉斯-歐文
籃網
2
科比,皮蓬
活塞
2
朱利葉斯-歐文, 摩西-馬龍
雄鹿
2
科比, 朱利葉斯-歐文
森林狼
2
科比,庫裡
猛龍
2
科比, 諾維茨基
掘金
1
諾維茨基
馬刺
1
斯托克頓
黃蜂
0
火箭
0
湖人
0
熱火
0
鵜鶘
0
魔術
0
爵士
0
[–]notwronghopefully 707 指標 9小時前Does MIN get to count Curry twice since they drafted 2 PGs before him?
森林狼在庫裡之前選了兩個控衛，是不是該給他們算兩次？
[–]Heatwormhole222 342 指標 9小時前
They should count that as 4 misses. 2 for passing on him twice, and 2 more because each pass was used to draft a different PG.
應該算成森林狼四次躲過一傑。有兩次機會選庫裡森林狼都沒選，這算兩次。而森林狼還用那兩次機會選了兩個不同的控衛，所以再算兩次。
[–]RaptorsIanicRR 109 指標 8小時前
The immortal Jonny Flynn. To be fair, surgery fucked him up good.
不朽的喬尼-弗林啊。說實話，手術把他給毀了。
[–]KnicksLazarus704 27 指標 7小時前
Was he even that good when he was healthy? I don't remember him being that good at all
他健康的時候有那麼強嗎？我根本不記得他強過。
[–]ThatSluttyPumpkin 73 指標 7小時前
He played practically every minute for Syracuse and was the heart and soul of our team when we were perennial contender
他幾乎在雪城大學打滿了每一分鐘。他是我們那支常年爭冠球隊的心臟和靈魂。
[–]Pistonssampson40 120 指標 6小時前
In high school I played in an AAU tournament against Jonny Flynn. The guy didn’t even warm up. He just sat on the bench pregame and goofed around, shooting the shit with his buddies in the stands. Then he ties his shoes and walks out for the tip-off.
我高中在AAU錦標賽上跟喬尼-弗林交手過。他甚至根本就沒熱身。賽前，他就坐在板凳上，然後到處各種胡鬧瞎玩，和觀眾席的哥們瞎聊天，然後他繫好鞋帶，上場等待跳球的開始。
My team wins the tip, our PG is bringing the ball up and Flynn picks him up at halfcourt. Jonny steals the ball immediately and flies down the court for a tomahawk dunk. First play of the fuckin game, without warming up, and he was like 5’8”. He let out a badass scream while he threw it down, except he was 16 or 17 and had a kind of high pitched voice so it sounded like a kid screaming, “ahhhhh!”
我們隊跳贏了，我方控衛帶球推進，弗林在半場對上他，迅速地完成搶斷，然後就是帶球快攻完成戰斧暴扣，這特麼是那場比賽的第一個球，沒有熱身，而且他只有1米83。他扣籃時發出了十分吊炸天的尖叫聲。不過他那會兒才十六七歲，音調比較高。就像一個孩子在“啊——————”的尖叫。
He went for like 50 pts 10 ast and 10 steals and didn’t look like he was trying too hard at any point. I was so scared the entire game lol.
He was un-fucking-believable to watch in high school. Best hs player I’ve ever seen, second place ain’t even close, and I’ve seen a lot of future NBA players playing hs ball.
他終場比賽的數據大概是50分10助10搶斷，而且看起來根本就一直沒用力。我整場比賽都害怕極了哈哈。
弗林高中時期實在是特麼非常不可思議。他是我見過的最棒的高中生球員。比第二強得多，而且別忘了，我確實看過很多未來NBA球員在高中時的比賽。
[–]Celticsefshoemaker 47 指標 8小時前
The Wolves were set up to do an instant rebuild after trading KG. They could have had a Curry and DeRozan back court w/ a KLove and prime Al Jefferson front court. Instead they got Rubio and Flynn and then traded big Al for peanuts.
凱爾特人球迷：森林狼交易走加內特後本可以迅速完成重建的。他們本可以擁有庫裡+德羅讚的後場加上樂福+巔峰艾爾-傑弗森的前場。結果，他們只選了盧比奧和弗林，還把艾爾-傑弗森交易掉換來一堆零碎。
[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-Bonsushakattack917 233 指標 10小時前
Can't believe the Spurs passed on Stockton SMH
Such an incompetent organization
不敢相信馬刺竟然錯過了斯托克頓，唉。
真是個能力不足的俱樂部呀！手動滑稽。
[–]Lakersgizayabasu 101 指標 10小時前
Probably because his middle name is Houston.
湖人球迷：可能是因為他的中間名是休斯頓吧。
[–]Rocketszshawn10 54 指標 9小時前
TIL
火箭球迷：我今天才知道還有這事兒。
[–]SpursMethodMango 49 指標 9小時前
I know! And we wasted that pick on Alvin Robertson, who never accomplished anything outside of being an all-star, all-NBA player, defensive player of the year and one of four players to ever record a quadruple double.
馬刺球迷：我說也是呀！我們把那個籤位浪費在了阿爾文-羅伯特森身上，他除了全明星、最佳陣容、最佳防守球員以及成為歷史上獲得四雙的四名球員之一以外什麼成就也沒有。
[–]Bullsbjankles 351 指標 9小時前
I saw OKC passed on Curry and thought oh my god imagine him and Durant on the same team!
Then I remembered.
看到雷霆錯過了庫裡時，我心想，臥槽！庫裡和杜蘭特要是在同一支球隊該什麼景象啊！
然後我就回過神來了。
[–][GSW] Calbert Cheaneyswollencornholio 143 指標 8小時前
OKC drafted some other MVP that year instead
勇士球迷：雷霆那年選了另一位MVP。
[–]Duke_Silver729 47 指標 8小時前
We drafted Harden that year instead, so I think we still came out alright.
雷霆球迷：我們那年選了哈登，所以我覺得我雷還沒虧吧。
[–]Bullsbjankles 101 指標 8小時前
I'm not commenting on the quality of the draft, just that for a second I imagined KD and Curry playing together and then realized that they already do.
層主：我不是在評價選秀的質量，只是有那麼一瞬間我想象了一下庫裡和杜蘭特在同一支球隊打球的景象，然後突然想到他們已經在一起合作了。
[–]PacersDkahre429 312 指標 10小時前
The fact that we could’ve drafted Larry bird so easily but instead use it on unknown scrub will forever haunt my soul
Edit: I guess kobe too. But we weren’t interested because of Reggie lol
步行者球迷：我們本可以選到拉里-伯德，但最後只選了個無名小卒，這事兒我得傷心一輩子。
編輯：大概還有科比吧。但那時我們已經有雷吉-米勒了，所以對他不感興趣。
[–]BURRITO_JONES 135 指標 9小時前
The Bird pick was a head scratcher. Local fan fave but they were so anxious for him to play immediately. Then they traded to pick to Portland and they failed to persuade him to leave school, too. Both teams could have done what Red & Boston did - pick him anyway and just hold onto his rights.
步行者當年的選擇也算是撓破腦筋。印第安納州本地球迷對伯德很痴迷，但也很想讓他立刻出戰。之後，步行者將那個選秀權交易到了開拓者，而開拓者也沒能說服大鳥離校。這兩支球隊都本可以像紅衣主教&凱爾特人那樣做——選中他，並緊握他的簽約權。
[–]NBAwhy_rob_y 60 指標 8小時前
That isn't exactly true. He was drafted in 1978 and if whichever team picked him didn't sign him by the 1979 draft, he was free to be drafted again and signed by someone else (essentially making that pick in 1978 a waste). The Celtics took a chance and ended up getting him to sign in April 1979, just a couple months before the 1979 draft.
這其實並不完全鎮古切爾。大鳥是在1978年被選中的，如果選中他的球隊到了1979年選秀大會還沒跟他簽下合同，他就重獲自由身，可以再次參加選秀並和其他球隊簽約（本質上等於1978年的選秀權浪費了）。凱爾特人賭了一把，最終在1979年4月簽下了他，就在那年選秀大會的前幾個月。
Besides being the Celtics and maybe feeling more confident, it also makes sense to be more willing to gamble with a 6th pick than a 1st pick.
而且，那可是凱爾特人，他們心裡踏實多了。用6號簽賭一把總比用1號籤強，這也說得過去。
[–]Heatwormhole22 72 指標 9小時前
Yeah but it’s the Pacers there’s no way Larry would want to play in such a small town. Maybe if he grew up in the local are ... oh.
是啊，但那是步行者。大鳥不可能願意在那個小城市打球的。
如果他是本地人的話還有可能……哦伯德確實是印第安納州本地人。
[–]PacersTheSource88 48 指標 8小時前
I know the boston metro is bigger and this was 40 years ago, but for the record Indianapolis has 200k more people than Boston.
步行者球迷：我知道波士頓城區更大而且那是40年前，但是，我要說一句，印第安納波利斯可比波士頓還多20萬人口呢。
[–]mormonwoman 92 指標 10小時前
While the Clips and Kings beat them in quantity, I don't think anything tops Portland's line-up of
Jordan, Bird, Erving, Barkley, Stockton, Durant
快船和國王在數量上取勝了。但我覺得開拓者在陣容的質量上無可匹敵：
喬丹、大鳥、J博士、巴克利、斯托克頓、杜蘭特。
[–]Trail BlazersJarekBloodDragon 36 指標 7小時前
Portland was almost all a case of bad luck compared to pure bad management of other organizations. Relevant video. Still portland's biggest what if is not mj, it's if the soviets didn't screw us out of prime sabonis. An early 90's blazers team of sabonis and drexler? 90's could have been blazers era.
開拓者球迷：不同於其他球隊那樣純粹的管理差勁，我拓更多的只是運氣不好。開拓者最大的“如果”不是喬丹，而是“如果蘇聯沒有將巔峰薩博尼斯從我們手中剝奪走該有多好”。在90年代初期，若是我拓能擁有薩博尼斯+德雷克斯勒？那90年代就屬於開拓者了。
[–][PDX] Rod StricklandDrTom 45 指標 9小時前*
What makes Portland special here is how few opportunities we've had. Clips and Sac were terrible forever. Portland only gets real opportunities here and there; and when we do we get it with the deck absolutely stacked in our favor. Yet somehow we still fuck it up. Take the 1984 draft, for instance. We didn't just pass on Jordan. We also passed on Barkley and Stockton. That's just an insanely impressive level of incompetence.
開拓者球迷：使開拓者獨樹一幟的是，我們的機會本來就很少但得到時卻都沒把握住。快船和國王一直都很爛。開拓者只有一兩次得到真正的機會，而當得到機會的時候，我們真的是佔據了天時地利人和。結果卻還是特麼搞砸了。拿1984年選秀大會來說吧。我們不僅是錯過了喬丹那麼簡單，我們還錯過了巴克利和斯托克頓。這種無能也算是差出了新高度。
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