[OC] Which team has passed on a chance to draft a top-25 all-time player the most? (Its the Clippers)
【原创内容】哪支球队在选秀大会上错过历史前25球员的次数最多？——答案是快船。
I used ESPN's top-25 all time ranking from a couple years ago. I know its subjective, but I had to use someone's list and this one is pretty recent.
我用了ESPN几年前排出的的历史前二十五榜单。我知道这种榜单很主观，但我总得拿个排名来来用吧。而且这个榜单还是挺新的。
榜单地址：http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankalltime/greatest-players-ever
Note: I do NOT count teams that passed on a top-25 player in order to draft a different top-25 player. (For example, when the Rockets drafted Hakeem over Jordan or when the Royals drafted Oscar over Jerry West).
Note 2: Moses Malone started his pro career in the ABA. When the ABA and NBA merged in 1976 there was a dispersal draft. It was in this dispersal draft that the Bulls, Kings, and Pistons missed their chance at drafting Malone.
注：我没有算上那些为了选一个历史前25而错过了另一个的球队。（比如，火箭在乔丹之前选了大梦，皇家在LOGO男之前选了大O）。
注2：摩西-马龙的职业生涯是在ABA启航的。ABA和NBA在1976年合并时举行了一次解散选秀。也就是在那届选秀大会上，公牛、国王和活塞错过了选中马龙的机会。
Team
球队
# Players Passed
错过的球员数
Top-25 Players Passed
错过的历史前25球员
快船
8
科比, 朱利叶斯-欧文,卡尔-马龙, 诺维茨基, 斯托克顿, 加内特, 库里, 皮蓬
国王
7
伯德, 拉塞尔, 摩西-马龙, 卡尔-马龙, 诺维茨基, 斯托克顿, 库里
开拓者
6
乔丹,伯德, 朱利叶斯-欧文, 巴克利, 斯托克顿, 杜兰特
勇士
5
伯德, 科比, 卡尔-马龙. 诺维茨基, 加内特
76人
5
科比, 朱利叶斯-欧文, 诺维茨基, 斯托克顿,加内特
骑士
4
科比, 朱利叶斯-欧文, 卡尔-马龙, 斯托克顿
独行侠
4
科比, 卡尔-马龙, 巴克利, 斯托克顿
太阳
4
朱利叶斯-欧文, 卡尔-马龙, 斯托克顿, 皮蓬
公牛
3
朱利叶斯-欧文, 摩西-马龙, 卡尔-马龙
步行者
3
伯德, 科比, 卡尔-马龙
灰熊
3
科比, 诺维茨基, 库里
尼克斯
3
伯德, 朱利叶斯-欧文, 卡尔-马龙
雷霆
3
朱利叶斯-欧文,卡尔-马龙, 库里
奇才
3
卡尔-马龙,斯托克顿, 加内特
老鹰
2
卡尔-马龙, 斯托克顿
凯尔特人
2
科比, 朱利叶斯-欧文
篮网
2
科比,皮蓬
活塞
2
朱利叶斯-欧文, 摩西-马龙
雄鹿
2
科比, 朱利叶斯-欧文
森林狼
2
科比,库里
猛龙
2
科比, 诺维茨基
掘金
1
诺维茨基
马刺
1
斯托克顿
黄蜂
0
火箭
0
湖人
0
热火
0
鹈鹕
0
魔术
0
爵士
0
[–]notwronghopefully 707 指標 9小時前Does MIN get to count Curry twice since they drafted 2 PGs before him?
森林狼在库里之前选了两个控卫，是不是该给他们算两次？
[–]Heatwormhole222 342 指標 9小時前
They should count that as 4 misses. 2 for passing on him twice, and 2 more because each pass was used to draft a different PG.
应该算成森林狼四次躲过一杰。有两次机会选库里森林狼都没选，这算两次。而森林狼还用那两次机会选了两个不同的控卫，所以再算两次。
[–]RaptorsIanicRR 109 指標 8小時前
The immortal Jonny Flynn. To be fair, surgery fucked him up good.
不朽的乔尼-弗林啊。说实话，手术把他给毁了。
[–]KnicksLazarus704 27 指標 7小時前
Was he even that good when he was healthy? I don't remember him being that good at all
他健康的时候有那么强吗？我根本不记得他强过。
[–]ThatSluttyPumpkin 73 指標 7小時前
He played practically every minute for Syracuse and was the heart and soul of our team when we were perennial contender
他几乎在雪城大学打满了每一分钟。他是我们那支常年争冠球队的心脏和灵魂。
[–]Pistonssampson40 120 指標 6小時前
In high school I played in an AAU tournament against Jonny Flynn. The guy didn’t even warm up. He just sat on the bench pregame and goofed around, shooting the shit with his buddies in the stands. Then he ties his shoes and walks out for the tip-off.
我高中在AAU锦标赛上跟乔尼-弗林交手过。他甚至根本就没热身。赛前，他就坐在板凳上，然后到处各种胡闹瞎玩，和观众席的哥们瞎聊天，然后他系好鞋带，上场等待跳球的开始。
My team wins the tip, our PG is bringing the ball up and Flynn picks him up at halfcourt. Jonny steals the ball immediately and flies down the court for a tomahawk dunk. First play of the fuckin game, without warming up, and he was like 5’8”. He let out a badass scream while he threw it down, except he was 16 or 17 and had a kind of high pitched voice so it sounded like a kid screaming, “ahhhhh!”
我们队跳赢了，我方控卫带球推进，弗林在半场对上他，迅速地完成抢断，然后就是带球快攻完成战斧暴扣，这特么是那场比赛的第一个球，没有热身，而且他只有1米83。他扣篮时发出了十分吊炸天的尖叫声。不过他那会儿才十六七岁，音调比较高。就像一个孩子在“啊——————”的尖叫。
He went for like 50 pts 10 ast and 10 steals and didn’t look like he was trying too hard at any point. I was so scared the entire game lol.
He was un-fucking-believable to watch in high school. Best hs player I’ve ever seen, second place ain’t even close, and I’ve seen a lot of future NBA players playing hs ball.
他终场比赛的数据大概是50分10助10抢断，而且看起来根本就一直没用力。我整场比赛都害怕极了哈哈。
弗林高中时期实在是特么非常不可思议。他是我见过的最棒的高中生球员。比第二强得多，而且别忘了，我确实看过很多未来NBA球员在高中时的比赛。
[–]Celticsefshoemaker 47 指標 8小時前
The Wolves were set up to do an instant rebuild after trading KG. They could have had a Curry and DeRozan back court w/ a KLove and prime Al Jefferson front court. Instead they got Rubio and Flynn and then traded big Al for peanuts.
凯尔特人球迷：森林狼交易走加内特后本可以迅速完成重建的。他们本可以拥有库里+德罗赞的后场加上乐福+巅峰艾尔-杰弗森的前场。结果，他们只选了卢比奥和弗林，还把艾尔-杰弗森交易掉换来一堆零碎。
[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-Bonsushakattack917 233 指標 10小時前
Can't believe the Spurs passed on Stockton SMH
Such an incompetent organization
不敢相信马刺竟然错过了斯托克顿，唉。
真是个能力不足的俱乐部呀！手动滑稽。
[–]Lakersgizayabasu 101 指標 10小時前
Probably because his middle name is Houston.
湖人球迷：可能是因为他的中间名是休斯顿吧。
[–]Rocketszshawn10 54 指標 9小時前
TIL
火箭球迷：我今天才知道还有这事儿。
[–]SpursMethodMango 49 指標 9小時前
I know! And we wasted that pick on Alvin Robertson, who never accomplished anything outside of being an all-star, all-NBA player, defensive player of the year and one of four players to ever record a quadruple double.
马刺球迷：我说也是呀！我们把那个签位浪费在了阿尔文-罗伯特森身上，他除了全明星、最佳阵容、最佳防守球员以及成为历史上获得四双的四名球员之一以外什么成就也没有。
[–]Bullsbjankles 351 指標 9小時前
I saw OKC passed on Curry and thought oh my god imagine him and Durant on the same team!
Then I remembered.
看到雷霆错过了库里时，我心想，卧槽！库里和杜兰特要是在同一支球队该什么景象啊！
然后我就回过神来了。
[–][GSW] Calbert Cheaneyswollencornholio 143 指標 8小時前
OKC drafted some other MVP that year instead
勇士球迷：雷霆那年选了另一位MVP。
[–]Duke_Silver729 47 指標 8小時前
We drafted Harden that year instead, so I think we still came out alright.
雷霆球迷：我们那年选了哈登，所以我觉得我雷还没亏吧。
[–]Bullsbjankles 101 指標 8小時前
I'm not commenting on the quality of the draft, just that for a second I imagined KD and Curry playing together and then realized that they already do.
层主：我不是在评价选秀的质量，只是有那么一瞬间我想象了一下库里和杜兰特在同一支球队打球的景象，然后突然想到他们已经在一起合作了。
[–]PacersDkahre429 312 指標 10小時前
The fact that we could’ve drafted Larry bird so easily but instead use it on unknown scrub will forever haunt my soul
Edit: I guess kobe too. But we weren’t interested because of Reggie lol
步行者球迷：我们本可以选到拉里-伯德，但最后只选了个无名小卒，这事儿我得伤心一辈子。
编辑：大概还有科比吧。但那时我们已经有雷吉-米勒了，所以对他不感兴趣。
[–]BURRITO_JONES 135 指標 9小時前
The Bird pick was a head scratcher. Local fan fave but they were so anxious for him to play immediately. Then they traded to pick to Portland and they failed to persuade him to leave school, too. Both teams could have done what Red & Boston did - pick him anyway and just hold onto his rights.
步行者当年的选择也算是挠破脑筋。印第安纳州本地球迷对伯德很痴迷，但也很想让他立刻出战。之后，步行者将那个选秀权交易到了开拓者，而开拓者也没能说服大鸟离校。这两支球队都本可以像红衣主教&凯尔特人那样做——选中他，并紧握他的签约权。
[–]NBAwhy_rob_y 60 指標 8小時前
That isn't exactly true. He was drafted in 1978 and if whichever team picked him didn't sign him by the 1979 draft, he was free to be drafted again and signed by someone else (essentially making that pick in 1978 a waste). The Celtics took a chance and ended up getting him to sign in April 1979, just a couple months before the 1979 draft.
这其实并不完全镇古切尔。大鸟是在1978年被选中的，如果选中他的球队到了1979年选秀大会还没跟他签下合同，他就重获自由身，可以再次参加选秀并和其他球队签约（本质上等于1978年的选秀权浪费了）。凯尔特人赌了一把，最终在1979年4月签下了他，就在那年选秀大会的前几个月。
Besides being the Celtics and maybe feeling more confident, it also makes sense to be more willing to gamble with a 6th pick than a 1st pick.
而且，那可是凯尔特人，他们心里踏实多了。用6号签赌一把总比用1号签强，这也说得过去。
[–]Heatwormhole22 72 指標 9小時前
Yeah but it’s the Pacers there’s no way Larry would want to play in such a small town. Maybe if he grew up in the local are ... oh.
是啊，但那是步行者。大鸟不可能愿意在那个小城市打球的。
如果他是本地人的话还有可能……哦伯德确实是印第安纳州本地人。
[–]PacersTheSource88 48 指標 8小時前
I know the boston metro is bigger and this was 40 years ago, but for the record Indianapolis has 200k more people than Boston.
步行者球迷：我知道波士顿城区更大而且那是40年前，但是，我要说一句，印第安纳波利斯可比波士顿还多20万人口呢。
[–]mormonwoman 92 指標 10小時前
While the Clips and Kings beat them in quantity, I don't think anything tops Portland's line-up of
Jordan, Bird, Erving, Barkley, Stockton, Durant
快船和国王在数量上取胜了。但我觉得开拓者在阵容的质量上无可匹敌：
乔丹、大鸟、J博士、巴克利、斯托克顿、杜兰特。
[–]Trail BlazersJarekBloodDragon 36 指標 7小時前
Portland was almost all a case of bad luck compared to pure bad management of other organizations. Relevant video. Still portland's biggest what if is not mj, it's if the soviets didn't screw us out of prime sabonis. An early 90's blazers team of sabonis and drexler? 90's could have been blazers era.
开拓者球迷：不同于其他球队那样纯粹的管理差劲，我拓更多的只是运气不好。开拓者最大的“如果”不是乔丹，而是“如果苏联没有将巅峰萨博尼斯从我们手中剥夺走该有多好”。在90年代初期，若是我拓能拥有萨博尼斯+德雷克斯勒？那90年代就属于开拓者了。
[–][PDX] Rod StricklandDrTom 45 指標 9小時前*
What makes Portland special here is how few opportunities we've had. Clips and Sac were terrible forever. Portland only gets real opportunities here and there; and when we do we get it with the deck absolutely stacked in our favor. Yet somehow we still fuck it up. Take the 1984 draft, for instance. We didn't just pass on Jordan. We also passed on Barkley and Stockton. That's just an insanely impressive level of incompetence.
开拓者球迷：使开拓者独树一帜的是，我们的机会本来就很少但得到时却都没把握住。快船和国王一直都很烂。开拓者只有一两次得到真正的机会，而当得到机会的时候，我们真的是占据了天时地利人和。结果却还是特么搞砸了。拿1984年选秀大会来说吧。我们不仅是错过了乔丹那么简单，我们还错过了巴克利和斯托克顿。这种无能也算是差出了新高度。
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