總決賽的歐文太恐怖,場均28分還是180俱樂部一員;他被低估了?

In 13 career finals games, Kyrie Irving is averaging 28ppg on near 50/40/90 shooting splits.

歐文職業生涯截至目前總共打了十三場總決賽,而他在這十三場比賽中場均砍下28分,三項命中率接近50%+40%+90%。

總決賽的歐文太恐怖,場均28分還是180俱樂部一員;他被低估了?

I understand he's a bad defender and not an elite distributor, and while he's not great he's not a bad passer either, and his defense has gotten to the point where the team he was leading in minutes played had the best defensive rating in the league despite him, so he's obviously at least passable.

我知道,他防守不好,也不是個頂級的組織者。可是,雖然他的傳球不夠優秀,但也絕對不算差。而至於他的防守嘛,上賽季,凱爾特人曾在歐文出場時間領銜全隊的情況下取得聯盟第一的防守效率,所以歐文的防守水平顯然也還過得去。

Basically what I'm getting at is that he is pretty underrated considering how much shit he gets from a pretty big chunk of people.

基本上我想說的就是,考慮到太多人對他的大肆批評,我覺得歐文被嚴重低估了。


[–][NYK] Anthony MasonBlueHundred 198 指標 8小時前

Kyrie is both very overrated and very underrated. Depends who you ask

尼克斯球迷:歐文既被過於高估也被過於低估,這要看你問誰了。

[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 50 指標 4小時前

I call this "Kobe Bryant Syndrome".

我把這種情況叫做“科比-布萊恩特綜合徵”。

[–]dmt_nirvana 72 指標 10小時前

I think an underrated part of what makes him so good down the stretch is how much control he has with his dribble and how he can get to wherever he wants and has an arsenal of shots to score from anywhere.

我覺得吧,歐文的關鍵時刻之所以如此優秀,有一部分被大家所低估的原因是他控球的穩定性和隨心所欲到達球場任意一點的能力,同時,他也具備在任意點出手的能力。

This ability is really valuable when it's crunch time and the defense is locked in and it's difficult to get separation, but his ability to do just that even against great defense makes him a lot more valuable in these difficult moments than some players who might be better overall during the season.

當比賽來到關鍵時刻,防守專注度達到頂峰而且很難跟防守人拉開距離時,歐文的這種能力會非常有價值了。但他在絕境中面對極其優秀的防守也能如法炮製關鍵進球的這種能力實在是太珍貴了,其他別的球員從整個賽季來看能比他要穩,但這麼一看就不如他有價值了。

He really redlines his game and when watching him play you get the feeling he has an extra gear to go to when there is little space to operate.

他真的是把自己的技術雕琢到了極致。當你看他打球的時候,你會感覺只要球場上有一點點空間給他操作,他就能馬上再掛一擋完成加速。

After KD and Lebron I think he is one player who is most likely to get a good shot off regardless of the level of defense.

除了杜蘭特和勒布朗以外,我覺得歐文是最有可能在任何級別的防守強度下都能找到不錯出手選擇的球員。

[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME 66 指標 8小時前

underrated part? thats like the part he gets the most praise for wtf

額,被低估的部分?這好像是他最被稱讚的地方吧,你扯啥吶。


[–][UTA] Joe InglesNitroXYZ 471 指標 10小時前

Yeah for all his faults you cant deny that Kyrie is always there to step up in the big moments.

是啊,歐文是有不少缺點,但你不能否認的是歐文總能在關鍵時刻挺身而出。

[–][BOS] Jayson TatumIntergalacticWZRD[S] 174 指標 10小時前

Yeah, I know he's not everyone's cup of tea with his personality and some of the stuff he says. But I find it kinda ridiculous when people still say he's not good enough to be a top option on a contender. Offensively he's absolutely good enough to be the focal point of an offense.

凱爾特人球迷:沒錯。我知道,因為他的個性和一些言論,並不是所有人都喜歡他。但是每當有人說他還不夠格成為爭冠球隊的大當家,我就覺得有點扯淡。

在進攻端他絕對有能耐挑起進攻大梁。

[–]NeoBey 40 指標 7小時前

People say that because he is always going to depend on a secondary play maker. He can't run an offense on his own, and his time in Cleveland, both with and without LeBron, has proved it.

很多人這麼說是因為歐文總是要依賴於第二組織者。他就是無法獨自掌管梳理球隊的進攻。而他在克利夫蘭(不管有沒有詹姆斯)的表現也證明了這一點。

Even when the Cavs were stacked, the team would routinely fall apart when LeBron took a breather and Kyrie was tasked with running things,

If he's the #1, it better be a really damn good team 2-8 if he's going to contend.

即使騎士陣容天賦爆棚的時候,當詹姆斯下場喘口氣換歐文帶隊,球隊也總是陷入僵局。

如果歐文是球隊老大,那這支球隊的第二到第八人必須得非常出色才能保證歐文可以爭冠。

[–]Celticsnot_Brendan 35 指標 6小時前

Celtics are in a really good place to minimize that. We can easily have at least one of Gordon Hayward, Al Horford, or Marcus Smart out there for facilitating duties, and at least one of Terry Rozier, Jayson Tatum, or Gordon Hawyard for scoring playmaking duties.

凱爾特人球迷:凱爾特人就是一個很合適的球隊嘛,可以最小化歐文組織能力不足的缺陷。我們輕輕鬆鬆地就可以派戈登-海沃德、艾爾-霍弗德或馬庫斯-斯馬特三人中的至少一名球員來承擔組織任務,或者派特里-羅齊爾、傑森-塔特姆和戈登-海沃德中三人中的至少一名球員來分擔他得分和組織的壓力。


[–]Knicks10_zing 214 指標 10小時前

His 41 in Game 5 2016 was absolutely amazing. LeBron matched it as well but if Kyrie didn't show up there, they wouldve lost the series that game.

尼克斯球迷:他在2016年總決賽第五場轟下41分的表現真是太精彩了,詹姆斯也站了出來,但是如果歐文沒有挺身而出,他們在那場比賽就輸掉系列賽回家了。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookAnti_Thon 90 指標 9小時前

Kyrie singlehandedly closed them out that game

雷霆球迷:歐文憑一己之力在關鍵時刻收下了那場比賽。

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 45 指標 6小時前

LBJ was a monster that series. Lead everyone in every statistical catagory (totals)

But even then Kyrie was able to put up superior efficiency with 47/41/94 to LBJ's 49/37/72 as the 1b option to LBJ's 1a with nearly half the turnovers.

詹姆斯在那個系列賽的表現堪稱禽獸,在每一項技術統計(總數)都領先兩隊所有人。

但是即便如此,歐文的效率也要更高。作為球隊進攻第二選擇的歐文命中率為47%+41%+94%,而球隊第一選擇的詹姆斯命中率為49%+37%+72,而且歐文的失誤數是詹姆斯的一半。

總決賽的歐文太恐怖,場均28分還是180俱樂部一員;他被低估了?

2016年NBA總決賽騎士VS勇士技術統計

[–]Ididthemaths0 42 指標 6小時前

I don't know if superior is the word i would use for .002 better, .562 vs .564, TS%. Kyrie has the edge but the difference is neglible.

我大概是不會用“更高”這個詞來形容0.2%微弱差距。他們的真實命中率分別是56.2%和56.4%,歐文略高一些,但是這差距可以忽略不計。


[–][UTA] Mehmet Okurkiticus 120 指標 10小時前

Wait a second....50+40+90=180.

180 degrees is half the circumference of a circle.

The diameter of a circle is a straight line between 2 points half way between the the circumference of a circle

The line marking the diameter of a circle is flat

HOLY SHIT, THE EARTH IS FUCKING FLAT!

等會兒……50+40+90=180,

180°是圓周角的一半,

圓的直徑是圓周的中間兩點連接的直線,

標記圓的直徑的線是平直的,

臥槽!地球真尼瑪是平的!!

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryantiamnotkobe 48 指標 9小時前

Love him or hate him, he already had one of the most iconic clutch finals shot in NBA history and shit tons of dribbling highlights, A lot of fans seems to unaware of Uncle Drew's legacy and we are all witnessing an active all time great player

快船球迷:不論你是蜜是黑,歐文都已經擁有NBA史上最經典的總決賽關鍵球之一,以及數不清的精彩的運球表演。很多球迷似乎都沒意識到德魯大叔的歷史遺產,我們可是在見證著一位現役的歷史級別球員的表演啊。

[–]LakersThe_NA_Deft 41 指標 9小時前

In the playoffs, Steph Curry is the only guard I'd definitely take over Kyrie. Dude has absolutely balled the fuck out in big games.

湖人球迷:在季後賽,我覺得唯一一個比歐文強的後衛就是庫裡。歐文在重要比賽的表現簡直毀天滅地。

[–]Warriorsklankthompson 58 指標 10小時前

Dude was tryin to tell me Butler is better than Kyrie. Nah.

勇士球迷:之前有個老哥還跟我說巴特勒比歐文更出色,拉倒吧。


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