外國網友討論 為什麼那麼多外國人去中國後覺得好？

Tiffany Brown, studies Chinese at Peking University (2019)（在北京大學學習中文，2019）Answered 7h agoIf you’re a traveler that likes exotic lands and cultures different from your own, there is no place on Earth as “faraway” as China. Different smells, different language, different colors, different mindframe. If your idea of travel is relaxing in a resort eating club sandwiches, China may not be for you. For those adventurous and open-minded enough to give China a shot, chances are they return home with some great stories and a changed outlook on life.I visited China a few times before settling here to study Chinese. I can add some information on why myself and my foreign friends here love China so much.China is a country that gets better and better each day that you become familiar with the customs and way of life. If you’re planning on going to China, there are online resources you can download to familiarize yourself with China before you go.Here are some positive things that I’ve learned from my time in China:The “Shame factor” is more effective than aggressive law enforcement. In China all kinds of situations are set for high crime: rich and poor living next to each other, dark spaces near train and bus stations busy throughout the evening, crowded areas with people bumping into one another, pockets vulnerable. However, the crime rate is incredibly low. The shame of being caught for a crime carries repercussions for the entire family. Crime and rebellion are not glamorized in China. You may see police in the background, but rarely patrolling aggressively.There is actually a lot of freedom in your daily life. In China, the energy at night isn’t capped by closing times. Bars venues and food stalls can stay open practically all night. Restaurants are filled 24/7 with people enjoying themselves. There are no laws prohibiting these kinds of activities. Foreigners can enjoy themselves without having to show ID to gain entrance, or being shoo’ed out of a closing venue at last call.Convenience. In China, apps make ordering food, a ride, a bike, anything you might desire, quickly possible. The amazing public transportation can whisk you around a city or region in no time, with very little waiting. If you need a bottle of water or have a craving for some tasty duck neck, chances are you will walk past it on the next block. In America, you often need a car to get around and collect what you need and want. In China, with its densely-populated cities, it’s all at your fingertips.Eating Should be a Communal Event, Not an Individual Event. In China, the food your order will likely be shared between everyone at the table. The menu is often on the wall, so you don’t waste time flipping through the pages quietly. Decisions are made together, food is shared and harmony ensues. The other people at the table will ask what kind of flavors you enjoy, and make a compromise to make sure everyone is happy. At some street stalls, you’re even sat at a table with strangers, sharing a hot pot and passing sauces back and forth. The adventures of dining out are something that I greatly miss when I’m back in the USA.These qualities of China and Chinese culture combine to make the country an incredible place to travel or live. Like every place, there are downsides to life in China. However, coming from the USA, there is so much to learn and experience that it can really change your life!4.7k Views · View Upvoters

如果你是一個喜歡異國風情和文化的遊客，那麼中國是最值得一去的。不同的味道，不同的語言，不同的色彩，不同的思想。如果你覺得旅遊就是去一個度假村放放鬆吃吃總會三明治，那麼中國或許不適合你。而那些喜歡探險思想開放的人，去中國回來後，他們可能會獲得非常棒的體驗和不一樣的人生視野。在來中國學習中文之前我訪問過中國幾次。我可以談談為什麼我和我朋友這麼喜歡中國。中國是一個每天都變得愈來愈好的國家，你會熟悉他們的傳統和生活方式。如果你計劃去中國，去之前，你可以上網查看一下從而先了解一下中國。這裡的“羞辱因素”比執法還更有效。在中國，所有的設定都為高犯罪率提供了機會：窮人和富人比鄰而居，火車站和汽車站附近黑燈瞎火的地方一晚上都很忙碌，在擁擠的地區人們相互碰撞，口袋很脆弱。然而，犯罪率卻非常低。中國不渲染犯罪和反叛。在街上你或許會看到警察，但都很平和地在巡邏。

在日常生活中你其實擁有很多自由。在中國，夜晚的能量並不會因為打烊時間到而岑寂下來。酒吧和食品攤可以一直開到天亮。餐館裡時刻都有人們在享受美食。法律並沒有禁止這類的活動。外國人不用展示身份信息就可以進入消費。便利。在中國，手機APP可以點餐可以騎車，任何事情都變得很方便。便利的公共交通可以快速將你帶到城市或者地區的任何一個角落，鮮少等待。如果你想買瓶水或者品嚐美味的鴨脖，很有可能在下一個街區就能買到。在美國，通常需要開車一段距離才能買到你所需要的東西。在中國，在人口密集的城市裡，生活非常之方便。

吃飯應該是一件公共的事情，而不是一個人的事情。在中國，你所下單的食物會和桌面上的所有人分享。菜單通常是貼在牆上的，所以不用浪費時間翻菜單。大家一起做決定，共享食物以及和諧。桌上的其他人會問你喜歡什麼口味，然後會作出妥協這樣大家都開心。在某些街邊攤販上，你甚至和陌生人共坐一桌，一起用一個火鍋，將醬料遞來遞去。這種探險式的吃飯經歷是我回到美國後所懷念的。中國的這些品質和中國文化讓中國成為一個非常值得旅遊或者生活的國家。當然，生活在中國也有不好的地方。然而，從美國而來，我覺得中國有太多東西值得我們學習和體驗了，真的可以改變你的生活。

Jarome Matthew, Over 5 years operating company in Beijing, China, married a Chinese woman（在北京運營公司超過5年，娶了一箇中國妻子）Answered Jan 5Short answer: because their own countries are so bad!The reasons Africans and Russians are flocking to China are obvious so let's focus on western countries.Baby boomers have been depleting resources of most of the countries on the planet in a single generation, leaving absolutely nothing for future generations, polluting the planet to the point where some areas will become unable to support life, and leaving the cleanup to future generations, they support radical femenism and multiculturalism to the point where men are unable to find wives and keep families, and western culture may be in danger of extinction. They exported most of the industry and farming work overseas for short-term profit and allowed unrestricted foreign investment to shoot home prices to astronomical figures destroying future generation's chances at finding work and having a stable economy. They also destroyed educational and academic institutions in innumerable social and political experiments that crippled at least two generations and promote the kind of banking and economics that have put the most powerful country on Earth into the most debt ever seen in human history, causing massive economic recessions that affect the entire world. There's not much left in the western world anymore for anyone who's not a boomer or super rich. Get out now and have a chance at a good life in Asia!

因為他們自己的國家太爛了。非洲人和俄羅斯人前往中國的原因是顯而易見的，所以我們主要說說西方國家。嬰兒潮時期出生的人在一代人的時間裡就耗盡了大部分國家的資源，沒有給後代留下任何東西，汙染了環境，導致某些地方不適合人類生存，他們還支持極端的女權主義和多元文化主義，導致男人無法找到妻子、養家餬口，西方文化面臨著滅絕的危險。他們將大部分的產業和農業工作出口外包到海外以獲取短期利益，不限制外國投資，導致房價快速飛漲，破壞了後代找到工作維持穩定生活的能力。他們還在無數的社會和政治實驗中摧毀了教育和學術機構，摧毀了至少兩代人，並鼓勵所謂的銀行業經濟，使得世界上最強大的國家變成了史上欠債最多的國家，引發巨大的經濟衰退，波及了全世界。所以對於普通人來說，西方世界真的沒有什麼好處了。所以大家都去亞洲尋找更好的生活！

Ralph S, lives in Shanghai (2014-present)Answered Sep 6, 2017Sorry but most of the answers here made me cringe and wondering if you have been to the wrong country… Totally contrary to my experience.I am originally from Germany, but live in Shanghai for over three years, married to a Chinese wife. I travel frequently all over China. Some of the points here described as good are actually horrible for me.I rarely ate anything that i would eat a second time. Most dished just make me wanna puke by the looks of it. Not to mention hygiene. Don’t tell me Chinese people don’t eat cats and dogs anymore, because they do. And there are far more disgusting dishes socially accepted. Basic rule, the rarer the species, the more perverted the thought eating that is, the more desirable it is.The vast majority of people are rude, un-polite, loud, annoying, with no manners, cruel, would do anything to get rich, not very educated, lack common sense or basic logic (especially in traffic), racist, anti-social and uncivilized - basically no respect for anything and lacking every part that defines humans in my book. They live in their own little world and don’t care about or notice their surroundings. If you know their education system and parenting, that might explain a lot. Those “low suzhi” people are spoiling and ruining everything China has to offer. If you are approached in English and friendly, you better prepare to get scammed.Without the exploitation of cheap labor and the force marriage of foreign companies into joint ventures, you would be literally be standing in rice fields. The only things China is good at is reverse engineering, copying and mass production. That is not a cliche. The growth, which China is so proud of, would not have happend without foreign technology and knowledge. The adoption and development is not happening as fast as you might expect, due to no. 4.Chinese products have only as much effort put into it that is necessary to convince you to buy it. If it falls apart the next day or kills you, doesn’t matter. Being said, it is not that they cannot produce quality products, they just don’t want to and don’t feel ashamed about it. Basically they take something already on the market and do it cheaper. Hardly any own innovations. The products praised here are foreign backed.Really don’t get me wrong, not everything is bad. Some good points have already been mentioned. Im obviously still living here. But i think this thread gives a wrong impression and certainly not every foreigner thinks China is good. Even the more educated Chinese are embarrassed and ashamed about the above issues. There is always a good and a bad side, you just trade your priorities.

看了這裡的回答，我們去的是同一個國家嗎？大部分網友的回答怎麼和我在中國的經歷完全相反啊。我來自德國，在上海居住三年多了，娶了一箇中國妻子。我經常去中國的各個地方旅遊。大家所說的某些優點在我看來其實非常糟糕。​一般的食物我不會吃第二次。大部分的菜餚我看了就想吐。更別提衛生了。不要和我說中國人已經不再吃貓狗了，還在吃。還有一些更噁心的為中國人所接受的食物。基本的規則是，品種越是稀有，吃某種動物的思想越是墮落，人們就越想吃。絕大部分中國人都是粗魯，不禮貌，吵鬧，惱人，為了變富可以做任何事情，沒受過什麼教育，缺乏常識和基本的邏輯（特別是在交通上），種族主義，反社會和不文明，基本上不尊重任何事物，基本上缺乏任何的人類本質。他們生活在自己的小天地裡，不關心也不注意周圍。如果你瞭解他們的教育系統和撫養方式，你或許就明白了。這些低素質的人摧毀了中國的一切。如果有人用英語友好的接近你，你就等著被騙吧。

如果沒有剝削廉價勞動力以及強迫外國公司在中國建立合資企業，中國現在還是一個農業國家。中國唯一擅長的就是逆向工程，抄襲和大規模生產。這不是陳詞濫調。中國所引以為傲的發展如果沒有西方技術和知識的支持是不可能發生的，至少沒有你想象的那麼快。中國產品沒有什麼含金量，只要能忽悠你買就夠了。如果第二天就壞掉或者把你殺死，他們也沒關係。話雖如此，並不是說中國無法生產高質量的產品，而是不想，也不覺得這樣做有什麼不好。基本上他們就是模仿市場上已有的東西，然後造得更便宜。幾乎沒有自己的創意。這裡受人們喜愛的產品都有外國的技術成分。

不要誤解我，並不是所有東西都是不好的。有網友已經說了好的方面。而且我也依然生活在中國。但是我覺得這個帖子會給人們造成錯誤的印象，並非每個外國人都覺得中國是好的。即使是受教育程度更高的中國人也對上面的這些議題感到羞愧。事物總有好的一面和壞的一面，只能自己權衡。我個人覺得北京非常特別 ，應該成為其他城市的榜樣。然而，現代中國還遠不是西方社會的樣子。介於第三世界和第一世界之間。或許中國的犯罪率很低，讓人覺得安全，但是存在著不同的犯罪和威脅，比如詐騙，肇事逃逸，偷竊，假冒。。。中國進入21世紀，可是沒有足夠的時間去適應。。不要被時髦的高樓和旅遊景點矇蔽了雙眼，有種去內陸或者鄉村去看看真實的中國嗎。去中國旅遊時，我也很喜歡，但是居住在中國。。。

Katie Pedro, VP Operations, China at KSV eSports (2018-present)Updated Mar 18A2A. Many answers gave by expats who stayed in China, probably because they like to be in China. My examples are those who do not want to stay in China but still think China is good.When I met my husband, he had been in China for almost 2 years, crying his eyes out wanting to leave. His German boss concluded that it was because he was lonely, having a girlfriend would solve the problem. He speaks 5 European languages fluently, but have difficulty to learn Chinese. He didn’t like Chinese food, and not particularly attracted to East Asians. Anyway his boss set up a date for him. So we met and married. He stayed for another 5 years before moved to USA. Now he missed China and wanted to come back.

有好多外國人回答說自己喜歡居住在中國，所以認為中國好。而有些外國人並不想住在中國，但是依然覺得中國好。我遇見我丈夫時，他已經在中國待了兩年了，哭喊著想要離開中國。他的德國老闆認為這是因為他太寂寞了，找個女朋友就能解決問題。他能流利的說5門歐洲語言，但學習中文對他來說很困難。他當時也不喜歡中國食物，也不是很喜歡東亞女孩。總之，他老闆就幫他安排了一個

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