对位杜兰特时詹姆斯效率惊人,美国球迷热议詹杜一对一

[Stats]- LeBron when guarded by Durant in game 1: 45 possessions, 30 points on 10-15 shooting

【数据】总决赛首战,杜兰特防守詹姆斯45个回合,詹姆斯15中10砍下30分

对位杜兰特时詹姆斯效率惊人,美国球迷热议詹杜一对一

From NBA.com

NBA官网相关数据链接:

http://stats.nba.com/player/2544/matchups/?Season=2017-18&Seas cdth=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals&sort=POSS&dir=1

LeBron also had 2 assists, 2-3 shooting from 3 and 2 turnovers.

LBJ guarded by Draymond- 9 possessions, 8 points on 4/6 shooting

同时勒布朗(在被杜兰特防守时)还送出了2个助攻,在三分线外三投二中,还有两个失误。

在被德雷蒙德-格林防守的9个回合中,勒布朗6投4中,取得8分。

The best defender against Bron last night was actually Looney-

9 possessions, 2 points on 1-4 shooting and 2 turnovers. Looney da GAWD.

首战防守勒布朗最好的球员其实是凯文-卢尼,在对位卢尼的九个回合中,勒布朗四投一中,得到2分2失误。卢尼是爸爸!

Durant guarded by LeBron?

24 possessions, 7 points on 3-5 shooting.

被勒布朗防守的杜兰特?

24个回合,五投三中取得7分。


[–][DAL] Dirk NowitzkiNakedWalmartShopper 191 指標 7小時前

Damn this LeBron guy is pretty good.

独行侠球迷:哎哟卧槽,这个叫勒布朗的小伙子有两下子嘛。

[–]Lakersmillenniumpianist 639 指標 7小時前

LeBron torched him in 2017 too

湖人球迷:勒布朗在2017年也打爆了杜兰特。

[–][HOU] Hakeem Olajuwonkyotofly 425 指標 7小時前

LeBron torched him in 2012 too

火箭球迷:勒布朗在2012年也打爆了杜兰特。

[–]LakersKobe7477 401 指標 6小時前

KD: yeah exactly LeBron passed the torch to me

湖人球迷:KD:楼上说的真对,勒布朗将火炬传给了我。[译注1]

[译注1]: 杜兰特在17年总决赛后接受杂志专访时认为总决赛G3迎着勒布朗防守的关键三分等同于火炬传承。torch当动词讲时是中文中的“完爆"意思,当名词vsk是被传递的火炬。

[–]UFOVeeg 154 指標 6小時前

Obviously you’re joking but isn’t it insane that KD is so delusional that if he beats Lebron in the finals again and wins FMVP he will undoubtedly think Lebron has passed the torch to him

很明显楼上是在开玩笑,但是如果杜兰特再次在总决赛击败詹姆斯,拿下第二个FMVP,那他绝对会真的坚信自己从詹姆斯手里接过火炬了。他这失了智的程度是不是也太疯狂了?

[–][GSW] Klay ThompsonLoneAmbition 25 指標 1小時前

Imma be so pissed if KD gets FMVP over Steph

勇士球迷:如果KD在FMVP的竞争中压过了库里,我会气炸的。

[–][HOU] Hakeem Olajuwonkyotofly 29 指標 1小時前

No matter what happens this will always be Steph’s team

火箭球迷:无论发生什么,勇士队永远都是库里的球队。


[–]PacersOGsnowflake2 38 指標 4小時前

I mean kd torched him right back both years.. Kd averaged 30 and 35 ppg his first 2 finals on elite efficiency.

步行者球迷:我想说楼上说的这两年(12年和17年),KD也都把詹姆斯爆回去了……KD在生涯前两次总决赛以精英级别的效率分别砍下场均30分和35分。

[–]Lakersmillenniumpianist 5 指標 5小時前

Sure. I'm just saying, LeBron totally dominated KD last year whereas Iggy did a far better job. The Warriors actually will have a problem with KD as LeBron's primary defender.

Pelton compiled some interesting stats (just ctrl + f for Iguodala)

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbaplayoffpreview23646470/warriors-versus-cavaliers-biggest-mismatch-modern-finals-history

湖人球迷:当然。但我要指出一点,去年勒布朗(在对上杜兰特时)基本完全统治了他,反而伊戈达拉防得出色的多。实际上,如果让KD主防勒布朗,勇士肯定会有麻烦。

佩尔顿编写了一些有趣的数据(ctrl+f搜索iguodala就行)

链接:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbaplayoffpreview23646470/warriors-versus-cavaliers-biggest-mismatch-modern-finals-history

[–]CelticsCarmeloCurryTowns 89 指標 6小時前

Tbh, they can't guard each other. KD is too tall and Lebron is too big/fast/strong. There was one drive in one of the first possessions where Lebron just disregarded KD's presence on the way to the rim.

凯尔特人球迷:说实话,勒布朗和KD都防不住对方。KD太高了,勒布朗是高大/快速/强壮的结合体。在最初的几个对位回合中,有一个回合勒布朗完全无视KD的存在,直接突破到篮下。

[–]throwawaytothetenth 21 指標 5小時前

KD can reach just as high a Lebron. Lebron can't block him like he does gaurds.

I'd take Lebron 1 on 1 but KD is unbelievable from midrange. 57% this postseason.

KD的摸高丝毫不逊于詹姆斯。勒布朗不能像自己给后卫送出火锅那样盖到杜兰特。

如果一对一的话我觉得勒布朗会赢,但是KD的中距离实在无解,这个季后赛KD的中距离命中率达到了57%。

[–]ThePhoenixJ 7 指標 4小時前

Lebron is my favorite player, but there's no way I'd take him over KD if you're strictly talking about 1-on-1 play

勒布朗是我最喜欢的球员,但如果你说的是真格的一对一,我绝不认为勒布朗会胜过KD。

[–]throwawaytothetenth 58 指標 4小時前*

Among NBA players 1 on 1 will be decided by length, quickness, strength, and skill.

Both are about equally skilled, KD better at contested jumpers and Lebron better at contested finishes. Similar handling.

NBA球员中的一对一,能否取胜取决于臂展,速度,力量和技巧。

勒布朗和KD都是富有技巧的球员,KD擅长高难度投篮,勒布朗善于高难度终结。两人的控球水平都差不多。

Lebron is marginally quicker

KD is marginally longer

But Lebron is WAY stronger. I'll take his finishing over KD's shooting.

I would say Lebron is the better defender but neither are really "effected" by defense lmao.

勒布朗稍微快那么一点点。

KD身高臂展稍微出色那么一点点。

但是勒布朗比KD强壮太多太多了,所以我认为勒布朗的篮下终结会压过KD的投射。

而且我觉得勒布朗的防守更好,但是这俩人好像都不怎么受防守影响哈哈哈。


[–][POR] Damian LillardFamilyguy35 48 指標 7小時前

Durant seems liked was he was out of it. Jr got the rebound over him and it was lazy effort from KD

开拓者球迷:杜兰特这场比赛跟元神出窍一样。JR居然在KD头上抢下了进攻篮板,KD打得太懒散了。

[–]rchanou 17 指標 4小時前

JR straight bodied him under the basket. KD has no idea how to box out.

JR在篮下直接用身体力量强吃了KD,杜兰特根本不知道怎么卡位。

[–]DrLyleEvans 95 指標 7小時前

I bet on the sweep partly because I figured Lebron's incredible numbers when guarded by KD last year wouldn't be quite so good this year, but game 1 definitely made it seem like KD has no idea how to defend him.

20 minutes of healthy Iguodala a game would completely kill the competitiveness of this series.

我之前觉得这轮系列赛会是横扫,部分原因是我觉得去年詹姆斯在被KD防守时取得的数据很爆炸,今年可能就不会那么好了。但是G1绝对反映了KD根本不知道怎么防守詹姆斯。

只要健康的伊戈达拉每场比赛打20分钟,那系列赛的天平就完全倾斜到勇士一边了。

[–]throwawaytothetenth 34 指標 5小時前

It's Lebron's strength. KD has the length and 95% on the quickness needed to contain him, but those drives get to him.

这是因为勒布朗的力量太强。KD有足够的臂展和限制勒布朗所需的速度的百分之95,但是勒布朗的那些突破还是让KD手足无措。

[–]notfakejesus 23 指標 7小時前

Neither one can really stop the other. It’s really always been like that. Bron just affects the game in too many ways and when Durant gets going anyone can get fucked

他们俩中的任何一个人都不能真正地防住对方。这么多年一直是这样。勒布朗能影响比赛的太多方面了,而杜兰特手感发烫的时候,谁都会被干翻。


[–][NJN] Vince CarterLaVinsanity 41 指標 7小時前

Except this doesn't explain anything about the warriors and cavs defensive schemes or the quality of the shots they both got or whether there were help defenders...statistically Curry was the best defender on Lebron, 7 possessions 0/1 FG

篮网球迷:这些数据无法解释任何勇士与骑士的防守策略、双方的投篮选择质量以及是否存在协防。光从数据上来看,库里才是防守勒布朗最好的球员,7个回合,勒布朗一投零中。

[–]Warriorsjinxy0320 140 指標 7小時前

The best defender on Lebron last night was actually Curry.

勇士球迷:那晚防守勒布朗最好的球员确实是库里。

[–]Knicksmr_feenys_car 62 指標 4小時前

I know that no one is suggesting curry can guard James, but the serious answer is LeBron isn't looking to take curry off the dribble.

He knows the warriors are all looking to crash down on help d when curry draws the switch. Hes dribbling to set up the right pass.

Which to be honest, with the Cavs role players, is probably the best plan

尼克斯球迷:我知道没有人认为库里可以防住詹姆斯,但是正经的答案是:詹姆斯没有选择用持球突破强吃库里。

勒布朗心里很清楚,当库里被换防到自己身上时,(如果自己选择持球突破)勇士会全力协防。

说实话,就骑士队的角色球员来看,这么防守很可能是最好的方法了。

[–]Lakerscasos92 55 指標 5小時前

Let's not forget about McGee

湖人球迷:咱也别忘了麦基对詹姆斯的出色防守哈。


[–]76ersanser1233 208 指標 7小時前

KD is not 1/2 the player Lebron is lmao dude is used to being up by 30 or choking.

76人球迷:KD连勒布朗的一半都比不上。笑死我了,杜兰特习惯了领先30分或者是在关键时刻掉链子了。

[–][WAS] Bradley BealNaabahs 104 指標 7小時前

LeBron passed me the torch.

-Kevin Durant

奇才球迷:勒布朗传我以炬。——凯文-杜兰特

[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 14 指標 4小時前

Remember last year when Bill Simmons said KD was the best player in the world because he finally beat Lebron with Steph, Klay, and Draymond's help?

湖人球迷:大家还记不记得去年比尔-西蒙斯(凯尔特人铁粉)说KD是世界上最好的球员,因为他终于在库里,汤普森和格林的帮助下打败了勒布朗?

[–]PacersOGsnowflake2 42 指標 4小時前

Half the player? Lol fishing for upvotes I see. KD is incredible the gap isn’t that huge he’s proven that multiple times. He averaged 35/8 and 5 assists on 70%ts!!!!! (56/47/93) lmao.

When he was 23 in 2012 he averaged 30/6/2 on 55/39/84 against lebron.

That means he’s out scored lebron in the finals on 2 separate occasion all on ridiculous efficiency.

Not half the player lmfao this guy.

步行者球迷:KD不及勒布朗的一半?笑了,层主是在骗亮吧?KD的表现令人难以置信,他和勒布朗之间的差距并不是那么大好吗?杜兰特已经多次证明自己了。去年总决赛KD以70%的真实命中率场均砍下35/8/5!!!三项命中率是56/47/93呢。

2012年,23岁的KD在总决赛对抗勒布朗的时候场均30/6/2,命中率分别是55/39/84.

这说明了KD在两次不同情况的总决赛都以近乎荒谬的效率,场均得分超过勒布朗。

神特么KD不及勒布朗的一半,您可劲瞎说吧。

[–]LennoxAve 10 指標 3小時前

Last night reinforced how big the gap is between the #1 and #2 best player in the world. Lebron has been dealing with scrutiny for years; imagine the mental strength needed to brush that off and ball out every game / every playoff.... Lebron really is the GOAT

总决赛首战展现了世界第一和第二球员的差距有多大。勒布朗已经被全世界放在聚光灯下观察好多年了,想象一下撇开这些杂念,还得在每场比赛/季后赛拼尽全力需要多强大的心理素质吧……勒布朗才是历史最佳!

[–]Lakersquandrawn 32 指標 7小時前

Lebron needs to take advantage of the matchup and put kd in foul trouble. He was aggressive, but he needs initiate closer to the basket or post up and overpower kd.

湖人球迷:勒布朗需要充分利用和KD的对位优势,并且尽力让KD身陷犯规麻烦。勒布朗的确打得很有侵略性,但是他需要在距离篮框更近的地方开始进攻,或者背身进攻用力量支配KD。

[–]CavaliersTheBiggestCarl23 36 指標 6小時前

He can do that sometimes, but he can't do it all the time. It would take way too much energy to post him up all the time.

骑士球迷:有时候勒布朗可以这么做,但是他不能整场都这么打。一直背身打会消耗勒布朗太多体力。

[–]throwawaytothetenth 16 指標 5小時前*

Agreed. Lebron can post up KD, but he's still 7' with a 7'5 wingspan. Posting up KD all game isn't the way to go.

I liked those JR postups on Curry in the first as long as they don't double. It tires out Curry which should be a goal on offense.

同意楼上。勒布朗的确可以低位背身打KD,但是KD有接近2.13米的身高和2.28米的臂展啊。整场背身攻KD并不是一个好方法啊。

我倒很喜欢第一节时,只要勇士不来包夹,JR就背身打库里。那几个球消耗了不少库里的体力。而消耗库里的体力确实可以作为骑士的进攻目标。


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